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Old 08-13-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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One of the videos from the pd station that night was lead Det Cerino pointing out to Gz his weight, and Tms weight. He points out to gz that he weighed in at over 200 and Tm only weighed around 150. Then verbatim, Cerino looks at Gz and points out that Tm " was a skinny kid"....not " man".....no, the lead Detective uses the clear delineator adjective, tells gz that TM was " a skinny KID".....AGAIN, HE MAKES THE CLEAR DISTINCTION THAT TM WAS A KID ( NOT A MAN)
Oh, so one officers word is some kind of smoking gun?

Older folks call 20/21 year olds "kid" all the time. Have you ever watched sports? In football and baseball rookies or young players get called "kid" all the time. But are they? No. It's a figure of speech!!

Call him a kid....call him a toddler....or an infant.

Bottom line is...if you are grown enough to take a grown man to task....you are a threat. Period. I don't care if you are 2 or 200.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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1) It's Cordell Jude, not Cornell

2) He was charged with murder and is currently awaiting trial. Only thing is, that didn't happen until he was arrested for another crime.

Everything else you post is spot on. There are a lot of hypocrites who make no issue of a black man shooting a Hispanic man from the safety and security of his car. While at the same time, a Hispanic man being beaten in a brutal, barbaric assault that simply defends his life is labeled all kinds of vile things, and his life is threatened.

I guess we know who the real racists are.
You cant be this full of yourself.

Zimmerman's story is not concrete. anything could have happened in the 45 seconds in which Trayvonhung up the phone with rachel and the moment he was shot. We will never know, but you trying to that is it racist to think Zimmerman was in the wrong and that his version of the story is untrue is just moronic on your part.

And if you dont believe that is what your comments are saying then please explain yourself, because you have continued to write lines like that and it seems as though you think anyone who believes Zimmerman was guilty is a racist.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You cant be this full of yourself.

Zimmerman's story is not concrete. anything could have happened in the 45 seconds in which Trayvonhung up the phone with rachel and the moment he was shot. We will never know, but you trying to that is it racist to think Zimmerman was in the wrong and that his version of the story is untrue is just moronic on your part.

And if you dont believe that is what your comments are saying then please explain yourself, because you have continued to write lines like that and it seems as though you think anyone who believes Zimmerman was guilty is a racist.
Old, old news. All of the forensics evidence and the witness testimony support Zimmmerman's story, and the jury has long since found him not guilty. I'm sorry your racism blinds you to the truth. You might want to consider some counseling.

Now, given that there was a far longer delay between the Adkins shooting and charges being placed than there was with Martin's, can you explain why there is no similar faux outrage? No race baiting? No demands for justice? Why aren't all the leftist race baiters out there screaming for Jude's death, regardless of the trial outcome?
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
1) It's Cordell Jude, not Cornell

2) He was charged with murder and is currently awaiting trial. Only thing is, that didn't happen until he was arrested for another crime.

Everything else you post is spot on. There are a lot of hypocrites who make no issue of a black man shooting a Hispanic man from the safety and security of his car. While at the same time, a Hispanic man being beaten in a brutal, barbaric assault that simply defends his life is labeled all kinds of vile things, and his life is threatened.

I guess we know who the real racists are.
And that is the real problem.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Old, old news. All of the forensics evidence and the witness testimony support Zimmmerman's story, and the jury has long since found him not guilty. I'm sorry your racism blinds you to the truth. You might want to consider some counseling.

Now, given that there was a far longer delay between the Adkins shooting and charges being placed than there was with Martin's, can you explain why there is no similar faux outrage? No race baiting? No demands for justice? Why aren't all the leftist race baiters out there screaming for Jude's death, regardless of the trial outcome?
There was no forensic evidence that supported his story and there was no witness testimony that did either. Every Witness Zimmerman brought forth only testified to seeing 2 blurry figures fighting in the distance. Your argument was that Zimmerman was just defending himself,but to make that claim you would have to know who started the fight and you dont. All you know is that Zimmerman followed this kid, the rest is what you believe. And the jury can find someone guilty even if they believe the prosecution is 99% right. If there is any doubt they have to find them innocent as 1 juror has already stated on TV.

Toyman, your comments are sickening, you call others race baiters simply for disagreeing with you.

As for your argument, NO ONE KNEW. You are making an argument based on 2 cases where one went national and the other didnt. And your argument fails by the simple fact that he did end up getting charged.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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There was no forensic evidence that supported his story and there was no witness testimony that did either. Every Witness Zimmerman brought forth only testified to seeing 2 blurry figures fighting in the distance. Your argument was that Zimmerman was just defending himself,but to make that claim you would have to know who started the fight and you dont. All you know is that Zimmerman followed this kid, the rest is what you believe. And the jury can find someone guilty even if they believe the prosecution is 99% right. If there is any doubt they have to find them innocent as 1 juror has already stated on TV.

Toyman, your comments are sickening, you call others race baiters simply for disagreeing with you.

As for your argument, NO ONE KNEW. You are making an argument based on 2 cases where one went national and the other didnt. And your argument fails by the simple fact that he did end up getting charged.
Zimmerman's injuries and TM's lack of injuries speak volumes about who was assaulting who.
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Old 08-13-2013, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Zimmerman's injuries and TM's lack of injuries speak volumes about who was assaulting who.
Who was winning the fight is not the same as defining who started the fight.

if you believe so, are you saying everyone who has ever gotten into a fight lost simply because they didnt throw the first punch ?
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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ThEvery Witness Zimmerman brought forth only testified to seeing 2 blurry figures fighting in the distance.
bullhockey.

George Zimmerman trial: Neighbor testifies Trayvon Martin was straddling Zimmerman moments before fatal gunshot - Crimesider - CBS News
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Trevor Dooley
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Old 08-13-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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cross examination destroys your argument
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