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Old 07-16-2013, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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What offer?
Full-ride scholarship.

 
Old 07-16-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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Mortgages are based on your credit score, income, and ability to pay.

Rachel wasn't the victim, she was a witness and the jurors had to weigh each witness. One of the witnesses could speak perfectly fine, but was adamant that she heard 3 gun shots, she lost credibility as well.

The witness who said she heard 3 shots was the only one who was across the road from the T, not along the alley-way. I suspect she heard 3 shots because of the way the sound of the gunshot reverberated.

I have to admit I'm a bit stymied by the attitudes on here. Even if someone's speech patterns does have an impact on how they are viewed and treated in a court of law, it shouldn't.

I don't see how anyone could think that is right.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 08:48 PM
Status: "USA Inc. - For the rich..." (set 10 days ago)
 
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The witness who said she heard 3 shots was the only one who was across the road from the T, not along the alley-way. I suspect she heard 3 shots because of the way the sound of the gunshot reverberated.

I have to admit I'm a bit stymied by the attitudes on here. Even if someone's speech patterns does have an impact on how they are viewed and treated in a court of law, it shouldn't.

I don't see how anyone could think that is right.
Right or wrong that is the way it is everywhere, but you never asked should it, you asked does it. Your reputation and dress determines your credibility as well. I could dye my blue tomorrow and lose all credibility.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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Full-ride scholarship.
For college? She's going to need a lot of remedial classes.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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For college? She's going to need a lot of remedial classes.
Yes. To college.
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:10 PM
 
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Right or wrong that is the way it is everywhere, but you never asked should it, you asked does it. Your reputation and dress determines your credibility as well. I could dye my blue tomorrow and lose all credibility.
Sometimes, content prevails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qgREMBTE28
 
Old 07-16-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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For college? She's going to need a lot of remedial classes.
She's actual gotten two scholarship offers and one of them included tutors to help her get ready for college. From the interview I saw of her today---can't remember which show---I think she's going take the offer. She said "She wants to make something of her."
 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Full-ride scholarship.
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For college? She's going to need a lot of remedial classes.
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Yes. To college.
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She's actual gotten two scholarship offers and one of them included tutors to help her get ready for college. From the interview I saw of her today---can't remember which show---I think she's going take the offer. She said "She wants to make something of her."
To an HBCU, which means the standards will probably be real low.

With all due respect, I don't think she is college material.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: North America
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Do you think a person who is inarticulate and uses street slang is less credible as a witness in a criminal trial?

Shouldn't jurors receive a jury instruction something like: even though a person does not speak English (let's say a person speaks only Spanish and needs a translator in court), or speaks English poorly , should not influence your judgment of their credibility.

The reason I say this, is that some black, Hispanic people, or recent immigrants, or people with speech impediments (like Rachel Jeantel), may be seen as less credible in a trial, whether they are defendants, witnesses, or lawyers, when really what does the way they talk have to do with their ability to tell the truth?!!!

I think what stuck in the jurors minds in her case wasn't so much her speech impediment, but her attitude. She clearly didn't want to be there.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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For college? She's going to need a lot of remedial classes.
I've met world renowned surgeons who can't put two coherent words together
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