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I think if the two had met, GZ had said, hi, I'm neighborhood watch, don't recognize you, are you visiting here? And TM had said, yeah I'm at my dad's girlfriend's down there third door on the right, each would have gone their way. Bad judgment on Z's part to get out of the car, bad judgment on TM's part to double back and confront. In testimony I believe Rachel told TM to run home, the guy could be a rapist. It has been suggested that TM may have thought GZ is gay, and went back to beat him up. He was a fighter, remember?
Now, it can't be proved that's what TM thought, but if it was, then he committed a hate crime in attacking Z.
There are things about this case we may never know, but it's time to accept the jury's verdict and let it go.
Is there proof that Martin made it to his dad's house and doubled back or was that Zimmerman's story?
What facts? Who attacked who first was never proven nor is it fact that TM was the aggressor. In fact in the absence of fact or evidence one might conclude that Zimmermans actions leading up to the altercation indicate that he was the aggressor.
1 person decided that another had no right to be out walking.
1 person decided based on his gut that another was a criminal.
1 person armed and violating Neighborhood watch rules took it upon himself to pursue another.
these 3 things are fact.
1 person lied repeatedly. Fact
1 person had minor injuries. Fact
TM had a 1/4 inch by 1/8 inch abrasion on his finger. Fact
No bruises on his knuckles. Fact
NO GZ DNA on his skin or clothes Fact
Nothing to suggest a ground and pound MMA style beat down as described by Zimmerman.
Gun in back of waist band. Lay on your back and try to draw the weapon. I have and can't draw and that is with no one sitting on top of me.
The events many GZ worshippers call fact are simply regurgitations of GZ's many lies.
TM was killed at point blank range. Fact
As far as being beaten to death or in danger of being beaten to death? Not a fact, not proven and certainly not demonstrated based on light injuries to GZ.
What is also fact is due to poor witnesses and even worse evidence GZ was acquitted.
In a nutshell.
PS: I'm glad you tried it on the ground too. Hard no?
He can pick a law to enforce, but it has to exist in the first place, he can't create laws, that's the legislative branch.
Yes..we know. Are you ok with holder deciding to disregard the jury verdict and try to railroad some "civil rights" violation against zimmerman?
How about "fast and Furious"? you ok with holder's conduct in that debacle?
How about allowing the irs to use their power to harass political groups he disagrees with?
Refusing to prosecute the black panthers for obstructing a polling place? That's against the law, too...but alas..eric "my people" holder has little regard for settled law.
I hope you are starting to see the point being made, Martin didn't just randomly start attacking Zimmerman, there were events that lead to that point and something had to happen to cause Martin to fight back
Fight back from what? Z never did anything illegal.
Given the fact that the forensic evidence proves that TM had no physical injuries other than those consistent with battering someone else, and that Z had battery injuries, the actual forensic evidence does in fact overwhelmingly indicate that TM started illegally physically attacking Z. To which, Z was legally permitted to act in self-defense.
So what caused Martin to attack Zimmerman? Was Zimmerman following Martin or did he go back to his car?
Following someone is not illegal.
The only illegal act committed that night was when TM battered Z, to which Z was legally permitted to act in self-defense. It's sad and tragic, but TM chose his own fate when he decided to commit battery.
Yes..we know. Are you ok with holder deciding to disregard the jury verdict and try to railroad some "civil rights" violation against zimmerman?
How about "fast and Furious"? you ok with holder's conduct in that debacle?
How about allowing the irs to use their power to harass political groups he disagrees with?
Refusing to prosecute the black panthers for obstructing a polling place? That's against the law, too...but alas..eric "my people" holder has little regard for settled law.
You are derailing the thread, and as i stated, Holder can't create any laws.
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