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Old 07-21-2013, 07:59 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Alibi? That an alien came around and beat Zimmerman after he killed Martin is a much better speculation.
Well, since Trayvon is dead and zimmerman will have to look over his back for the rest of his life and black males will still be feared and vilified by the media it is all a mute point.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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The purpose is to alert them of a possible crime in progress. I'll bet you already knew that.
Nah, just to create an alibi.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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Once again that is debatable, if it 20 ft or 20 yards someone can still be threatened for a variety of reasons. Men and especially young men are more then likely to confront someone who following them as oppose to a woman.
They can confront all they want. They can't attack unless threatened directly.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:02 PM
 
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Well, since Trayvon is dead and zimmerman will have to look over his back for the rest of his life and black males will still be feared and vilified by the media it is all a mute point.
Well, you should be outraged that Zimmerman, a free man, would have to do that. To think that's a good thing is terrible.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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Well, you should be outraged that Zimmerman, a free man, would have to do that. To think that's a good thing is terrible.
I have as much compassion for zimmerman has the right wing radicals have for TRayvon......I'm sure that you can figure that out for yourself
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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They can confront all they want. They can't attack unless threatened directly.
I'm sure that will go over pretty good to women who were threaten to be raped
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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Its a blue print for for murder.
1. Make sure you are gun legal/concealed carry permit
2. Make sure your victim can't testify
3. Don't testify your self
4. Make sure your victim hits you first
5. now blast away
Exactly!

33% of the stand your ground cases were justified by black people.

Next.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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I'm sure that will go over pretty good to women who were threaten to be raped
Why not? If they were threatened to the point of reasonable fear, they'd be free to attack.

What they can't do is go around attacking everyone who they deem suspicious.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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Why not? If they were threatened to the point of reasonable fear, they'd be free to attack.

What they can't do is go around attacking everyone who they deem suspicious.
Ok, but if she is being followed in the dark and rain and the person grabs or verbally threatens her with things that he will do to her would that warrant an attack? Is'nt that the premise of the SYG law?
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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The "ongoing assault" was possibly mythical, although I can agree that the state did not disprove there was one, making it a reasonable doubt issue.
"possibly mythical"......????? Only if you discount the testimony of an eye witness, and what reason would he possibly have to lie about what he saw that night? Oh let me guess, he was racist to, right?


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Still, at a minimum, GZ should've been held accountable for the actions he took leading up to the encounter: stalking or even disturbing the peace or something of the sort.
"or something of the sort"

This is what gets me about you people. You can't even decide what GZ should have been held accountable for, you just know, based on nothing but your own raw emotion, that he should PAY!!

Do you know what the purpose of community watch groups are? To WATCH whats going on in the community, in case it wasn't self explanatory enough for you. The things Zimmerman did leading up to the altercation were not illegal, there was nothing wrong with what he did. Infact, I'd even argue he did everything right. He saw someone he percieved to be possibly up to no good, called the cops, and kept an eye on him.

The facts don't support your assertion that he should be accountable for any of his actions that night, the law doesn't support your assertion that he should be held accountable for anything that night, so regardless of how mad or upset you are, too bad.


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That would be GZ. Following a stranger around for no apparent reason would be construed by most normal people as a threat.
Really? So if I'm walking down the street and it appears that someone MAY be following me, you would agree that since I feel threatened, I have the right to pull my firearm and shoot.... right?

Your argument defeats itself, I dion't have to do it.
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