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Old 07-17-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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Feel free to read my post again.
I reread your post. Still can't figure out why someone shouldn't be able to defend themself from a criminal that is beating them, choking them, trying to drown them, kicking their head, or otherwise trying to kill them. Especially if there are multiple assailants.

 
Old 07-17-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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Everything you need to know about ‘stand your ground’ laws

Various liberal groups are launching boycotts and repeal efforts of SYG laws in the wake of the Zimmerman acquittal.

SYG simply states that there is not a duty to flee in the face of a threat. This has long been the case with regard to an intruder in the home; SYG merely extends that principle outside the home. Per the link, the impetus for the law came when a man shot a guy who had broken into his RV. The RV owner faced potential prosecution because the RV was not considered his home under the law; SYG was enacted to fix that. And per the link it passed the FL Senate by 39-0, and was signed into law by Jeb Bush.

In the case of Zimmerman, he was down on the ground being pummeled (according to his account) and didn't have an option to flee even if he had wanted to.

This reminds me very much of the efforts to pass background checks in the wake of Sandy Hook, when the guns used at Sandy hook were duly purchased via background check. It's yet another example of 'this is your brain on liberalism.'
LOL, ssshhhh, they think Holder is going to do something. It's called PUNT as far down the road as possible just like Benghazi, IRS, and of course Holder going after a reporter.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: California
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He's more guilty of parking in a handicapped spot at the clubhouse than he is of SYG.
It just has a cool name and Trayvon is dead so it must be evil.
People are against something they don't even understand what it is.

It's the same reason they voted for Obama.
A girl at work has been militant about how wrong the verdict was. Talking about how she hopes that people kill Zimmerman because he deserves it. Then said that she didn't care if Martin was beating Zimmerman, that Zimmerman should have just been a man and laid there and taken his beating. That Martin was nothing but a child. Ummmm....ok.

Today she talked about how her mom used to abuse her and that the last time her mom hit her was when she was 17 and learned that she could fight back because she was an adult. The fact that her mom beat her aside, and I realize it is a big thing, but how in the world is she at 17 capable but Martin at 17 a child?

As you said, people are against something they have not bothered to investigate or understand. Nor have many of them bothered to look past the headlines they see on the news.

I am not even saying that she is wrong to feel as she does...but to not have even thought something through all the way while preaching for someone to be killed. Nothing ok there.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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SYG is a universal law against all oppression.

It is written into the Constitution of the USA.
 
Old 07-17-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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"Once and for all, Zimmerman case did NOT involve 'stand your ground' law."

I know, but good luck telling that to the dumbed down public and press.
 
Old 07-18-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either.

Someone being attacked / raped should not have to prove they "Retreated"
If someone is bigger, stronger than you it's probably not a good idea to put yourself in a position where you need a gun, better to back-off and wait until a real policeman shows up or just sit in the car.
 
Old 07-18-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: DFW
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If someone is bigger, stronger than you it's probably not a good idea to put yourself in a position where you need a gun, better to back-off and wait until a real policeman shows up or just sit in the car.
And if that does not work for the people who are weaker, older, smaller then it's better to have a handgun then it is to wait for a cop while someone kills, assaults, rapes you.

What happens if you don't have time to call 911 and wait for a cop to show up in 10-15 minutes ?

Beg for mercy ?
 
Old 07-18-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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"Once and for all, Zimmerman case did NOT involve 'stand your ground' law."

I know, but good luck telling that to the dumbed down public and press.
Can you explain why Stand Your Ground was part of the jury instructions if it wasn't part of the case, that the jury wasn't allow to consider it? Yes, the defense decided to go with the self defense plea but don't kid yourself if into believing the jury members didn't take SYG into consideration. The jury member who did the interview even spoke about it.
 
Old 07-18-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And if that does not work for the people who are weaker, older, smaller then it's better to have a handgun then it is to wait for a cop while someone kills, assaults, rapes you.

What happens if you don't have time to call 911 and wait for a cop to show up in 10-15 minutes ?

Beg for mercy ?
An assailant coming after you is one thing, I don't think I would be following someone on a dark rainy night if that was my only alternative, very poor judgment.
 
Old 07-18-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Can you explain why Stand Your Ground was part of the jury instructions if it wasn't part of the case, that the jury wasn't allow to consider it? Yes, the defense decided to go with the self defense plea but don't kid yourself if into believing the jury members didn't take SYG into consideration. The jury member who did the interview even spoke about it.
Because it was part of self defense law which was read in whole to the jury.
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