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Old 07-18-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Arkansas govt finally remembered that the Constitution forbids any govt from making laws restricting or prohibiting law-abiding citizens from carrying weapons, either openly or concealed. And they made a law agreeing with it.

How nice.

Four states now have this law. 53 to go.

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Arkansas restores constitutional carry - no permit or license required to carry weapons | Mississippi Gun News - news and information about second amendment freedom and liberty

Arkansas restores constitutional carry – no permit or license required to carry weapons

June 13, 2013

Starting next month Arkansas will join Vermont, Alaska, Wyoming and Arizona as a “Constitutional Carry” state. This means that no permit or license will be required to carry weapons, either openly or concealed for lawful purposes.

Arkansas law will handle people carrying guns the same way many state laws handle possession of “tools of burglary”. Normally you can get away with carrying common hand tools anywhere you otherwise have a right to be. But if you are caught trying to use them in an attempt at breaking and entering or even trespassing you can be charged with a crime based on obvious intent to use that tool in furtherance of a crime. This is an excellent way to deal with people carrying guns. As long as you are not harming, or attempting to harm others with a weapon then possession alone should not be a crime.

The burden of proof has shifted to the accuser (the state) who now has to prove that you are up to no good rather than you simply have the POTENTIAL for crime based on ready access to a weapon.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:38 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The Arkansas govt finally remembered that the Constitution forbids any govt from making laws restricting or prohibiting law-abiding citizens from carrying weapons, either openly or concealed. And they made a law agreeing with it.

How nice.

Four states now have this law. 53 to go.

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Arkansas restores constitutional carry - no permit or license required to carry weapons | Mississippi Gun News - news and information about second amendment freedom and liberty

Arkansas restores constitutional carry – no permit or license required to carry weapons

June 13, 2013

Starting next month Arkansas will join Vermont, Alaska, Wyoming and Arizona as a “Constitutional Carry” state. This means that no permit or license will be required to carry weapons, either openly or concealed for lawful purposes.

Arkansas law will handle people carrying guns the same way many state laws handle possession of “tools of burglary”. Normally you can get away with carrying common hand tools anywhere you otherwise have a right to be. But if you are caught trying to use them in an attempt at breaking and entering or even trespassing you can be charged with a crime based on obvious intent to use that tool in furtherance of a crime. This is an excellent way to deal with people carrying guns. As long as you are not harming, or attempting to harm others with a weapon then possession alone should not be a crime.

The burden of proof has shifted to the accuser (the state) who now has to prove that you are up to no good rather than you simply have the POTENTIAL for crime based on ready access to a weapon.
Stop with that common sense Arkansas.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure you still have to get a permit to carry a gun in Arkansas.

And the new law is simply not definitive. Personally, I think that's bad law-making. A law should be clear and unequivocal. Otherwise, you're simply leaving it to judges to determine what the law's intent and meaning is.

Gun-rights advocates contend new law allows open carry | Arkansas News
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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I'm pretty sure you still have to get a permit to carry a gun in Arkansas.
Arkansas law now says you're committing an offense, only if you carry with intent of using the gun unlawfully as a weapon against a person.

IOW, if you just have it in your pocket, or in a holster, you're not committing an offense.

It makes open carry or concealed carry, legal. You're only breaking the law if you threaten somebody or shoot somebody. Which is the way it ought to be.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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Arkansas law now says you're committing an offense, only if you carry with intent of using the gun unlawfully as a weapon against a person.

IOW, if you just have it in your pocket, or in a holster, you're not committing an offense.

It makes open carry or concealed carry, legal. You're only breaking the law if you threaten somebody or shoot somebody. Which is the way it ought to be.
Right.

Which is why the last sentence in Act 746 is: "Carrying is a Class A misdemeanor."

And the state of Arkansas makes money on those permits. Do you think the legislature wanted to give up that revenue stream. Not likely.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Arkansas restores constitutional carry - no permit or license needed to carry a weapon, openly or concealed
I wonder if they will catch hell form Obama for bringing it back!
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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Default Arkansas restores constitutional carry - no permit or license needed to carry a weapon, openly or concealed

Go Arkansas!

I hope this is another link in an ongoing chain.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:28 PM
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The Arkansas govt finally remembered that the Constitution forbids any govt from making laws restricting or prohibiting law-abiding citizens from carrying weapons, either openly or concealed. And they made a law agreeing with it.
Really?

What part of the Constitution mentions law-abiding citizens and concealed carry?
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Really?

What part of the Constitution mentions law-abiding citizens and concealed carry?
The same part that says we're one nation under god.
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Old 07-18-2013, 02:53 PM
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The same part that says we're one nation under god.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

The mythical Articles of Imagination.
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