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View Poll Results: Is a RADICAL change in American Politics needed?
In what ways? 9 28.13%
A third MAJOR party needed 23 71.88%
Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-10-2007, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I don't think this is about political leanings, or that it has to be.

Just check out XE.com - The World's Favorite Currency and Foreign Exchange Site to see world currencies. The Canadian dollar is worth $0.945 USD; the Aussie dollar is worth $1.09 USD; the Euro is selling at $1.47; the British Pound is twice as strong as the USD. Our economy has tanked and that's tied in with our world standing.

I live outside of the US and see/hear/read a lot that of news and economic analysis that is not US centric.

If we're not concerned, we should be.
Don't be deceived into thinking that the health of a country's economy is tied directly to the value of its currency. You need to consider other variables, such as GNP/GDP, standard of living, life expectancy, infant mortality rates, etc. And even those figures can be deceiving. Canada, Australia, and even the Euro area and Britain, have much more homogeneous populations, with fewer illegal immigrants who mostly fall below poverty levels and who suffer from high rates of infant mortality and general ill-health.

Keep in mind as well that the things that inflate our balance of trade deficit, such as our immense imports of petroleum (2/3 of what we consume -- over 380 million barrels daily), can also be considered indications of a robust economy, since that petroleum is used to produce a vast array of goods and products, power factories and businesses, heat homes, and fuel our vehicles -- of which we own more than the rest of the world combined.
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Old 11-10-2007, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Roanoke VA
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Default Is American Government Collapsing?

I don't think it is. As I was visiting Washington DC recently I noticed a distinctively different type of person that works for our government. With all of the Brooks Brothers suits, expensive designer shops, luxury limos that carry Saudi oilmen(no Texans), its obvious our government does not have a clue or care about the average joe/jane in America. Our government hasn't collapsed its just been re:invented to give tax breaks to the rich and more money to the lobbyists on K Street. I think its a direction all of us(rich or poor) should be concerned. The rich people that inhabit Washington DC should always look over their shoulder and remember how they got there.
Without the "less than affluent" majority out here there would not be a Washington DC.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:02 PM
 
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Well the idea of things like democracy and republic forms of government have been around since at least the days of ancient Greece, so I don't think these forms of government are what have collapsed. On the other hand, the people of this particular country at some point in their past decided it was best to have uncle Sam take care of the from cradle to grave. Now maybe those types of people who are more predisposed to govern over others helped engineer this attitude over time, and probably so. Whatever the case may be, the government is growing, not collapsing.

Most Americans would sooner die than think and in fact often do. In the meantime, most will scurry around like obese little cockroaches cowering in dark corner waiting on someone to protect them, to think for them, tell them how to feel, how to spend, how to live, what to be afraid of, and most importantly, who to vote for each election.

We used to be a government OF the people, but now most just sit around flipping coins trying to pick which of the lesser of two evils the news casters say they should vote for.

Its not the government that is broken, it is the people.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Well the idea of things like democracy and republic forms of government have been around since at least the days of ancient Greece, so I don't think these forms of government are what have collapsed. On the other hand, the people of this particular country at some point in their past decided it was best to have uncle Sam take care of the from cradle to grave. Now maybe those types of people who are more predisposed to govern over others helped engineer this attitude over time, and probably so. Whatever the case may be, the government is growing, not collapsing.

Most Americans would sooner die than think and in fact often do. In the meantime, most will scurry around like obese little cockroaches cowering in dark corner waiting on someone to protect them, to think for them, tell them how to feel, how to spend, how to live, what to be afraid of, and most importantly, who to vote for each election.

We used to be a government OF the people, but now most just sit around flipping coins trying to pick which of the lesser of two evils the news casters say they should vote for.

Its not the government that is broken, it is the people.
If so, they have been broken by the Welfare State mentality, as you so accurately point out. The same one being pitched by Clinton, Edwards, and the whole damn DNC. It's called enabling and building dependence, and it's seducing the electorate into spritual slavery.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:03 PM
 
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We need a complete nationalist revolution in this country completely redo the constitution except for the original copy. enforce the laws as the government obviously is do ignorant or lazy to do.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Katy-zuela
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I would say a 5, and sinking.....especially since fully 45% of "America" is dependent on the government in some way. How do you separate someone from their lifeline? The country can't keep taking the siphoning without raising taxes to extreme level, which is what will happen if the dems achieve "power". Hello socialism!
Most of the welfare recipients are corporations. How do you seperate someone (after all they are legally "persons") from their lifeline. Hello corporatism!
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:41 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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We need to get rid of both parties.
They have both forgotton they work for US and not the other way around. They desperatly need a wake up call from WE the people.
As the middle class are becoming a shrinking population, so will this country continue it's downward spiral.
It's the middle class who holds this country together.
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