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Old 07-21-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: texas
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Originally Posted by Patton360 View Post
You still don't get it. Too blinded by ideology. You go and have at it with others in here. I'm done.
if I "don't get it" it is only because you didnt 'have it'...next time come hard without excuses.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Canada
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if i "don't get it" it is only because you didnt 'have it'...next time come hard without excuses.

lol
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: texas
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lol
show me your brililance, show me you know what your talking about.

Prove abortion is murder.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Canada
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show me your brililance, show me you know what your talking about.

Prove abortion is murder.

I told you I'm done. Not done laughing though.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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You seem to be having problems with the two or more laws running simutaneously yet independently of each other.
It's not the law - it's the event and the inconsistent application of the definition.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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Okay always wondered about this. Abortion is legal, even late term abortion in many states yet if a women is pregnant regardless of how far along and is murdered, the accused is also charged with a second murder? It's either a life or its not a life? What gives?

To illustrate the other hypocritical side of a simlar instance a Catholic church was recently sued for malpractice for a women losing her baby. The church claimed the baby wasn't a life. Hypocrisy is on both sides of the abortion argument.
You need to go ask the right wing pro-lifers who came up with the laws that render the loss of a fetus to be a murder.

That said, I do think that anyone who purposefully injures a woman to the point where ANYTHING in her body is damaged, a leg, her uterus, her arm, whatever is in her uterus, anything at all on a woman's body, deserves to be kicked until he's in a coma, but that's just my view.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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You need to go ask the right wing pro-lifers who came up with the laws that render the loss of a fetus to be a murder.

That said, I do think that anyone who purposefully injures a woman to the point where ANYTHING in her body is damaged, a leg, her uterus, her arm, whatever is in her uterus, anything at all on a woman's body, deserves to be kicked until he's in a coma, but that's just my view.
I can agree that anyone harming anyone deserves punishment. I disagree that women deserve special consideration - they've fought too hard for equality to suddenly admit they're more or less equal depending on the situation.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: texas
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It's not the law - it's the event and the inconsistent application of the definition.
It is not inconsietent if the laws were written for dfferent reasons and by different bodies.

application of the definition is what is used for each separate and distint law.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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I can agree that anyone harming anyone deserves punishment. I disagree that women deserve special consideration - they've fought too hard for equality to suddenly admit they're more or less equal depending on the situation.
You totally misunderstood or purposely discounted the poster's explanation why there is a laws against violent feticide originated.

These feticide laws came after the RvW ruling on abortion and do not have any relation to the RvW ruling.

Independent laws and applications.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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But only after first the state says its ok
Yes. Having consensual sex with a woman is okay because the state says so. Forcing it upon a woman is illegal because the state says it is illegal.
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