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And never, NEVER answer yes when your doctor's office asks you if you have a gun in your home.
The answer you give will be in your permanent health record that the government is already accessing to a degree.
Even those of marginal intelligence can see how that would be used against firearm owners.
Since, the Affordable Care Act Prohibits The Secretary Of Health And Human Services From Collecting Data On Gun Owners, you believe in something that isn't real.
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impose appropriate penalties for non-compliance with such
requirements.
‘‘(E) EXCEPTIONS.—In developing the reporting requirements under paragraph (1), the Secretary may provide for exceptions to such requirements for group health
plans and health insurance issuers that substantially meet
the goals of this section.
‘‘(b) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—For purposes of
subsection (a)(1)(D), wellness and health promotion activities may
include personalized wellness and prevention services, which are
coordinated, maintained or delivered by a health care provider, a
wellness and prevention plan manager, or a health, wellness or
prevention services organization that conducts health risk assess-
ments or offers ongoing face-to-face, telephonic or web-based inter-
vention efforts for each of the program’s participants, and which
may include the following wellness and prevention efforts:
‘‘(1) Smoking cessation.
‘‘(2) Weight management.
‘‘(3) Stress management.
‘‘(4) Physical fitness.
‘‘(5) Nutrition.
‘‘(6) Heart disease prevention.
‘‘(7) Healthy lifestyle support.
‘‘(8) Diabetes prevention.
‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.
—ø As added by section 10101(e)(2)¿
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any in-
formation relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the au-
thorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protec-
tion and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the col-
lection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(3) L
IMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS
.—None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
Since, the Affordable Care Act Prohibits The Secretary Of Health And Human Services From Collecting Data On Gun Owners, you believe in something that isn't real.
Yes, fine, however when you answer that question as yes or no , it IS in a data base and is recorded at the federal level.
As we all know any law, including the Affordable Care Act and it's many sub sections are subject to alteration and downright change at any given time.
If the law is changed to allow access to ALL data collected within the framework of physician/ patient information this could and most likely would be used as a defacto database of some but not all gun owners.
If you have faith that the federal government will not change this provision then you my fellow CD member are extremely naive.
Yes, fine, however when you answer that question as yes or no , it IS in a data base and is recorded at the federal level.
As we all know any law, including the Affordable Care Act and it's many sub sections are subject to alteration and downright change at any given time.
If the law is changed to allow access to ALL data collected within the framework of physician/ patient information this could and most likely would be used as a defacto database of some but not all gun owners.
If you have faith that the federal government will not change this provision then you my fellow CD member are extremely naive.
What part of "None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act... shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to:
‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.," do you not understand?
What part of "None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act... shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to:
‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.," do you not understand?
One more time for you;
The law is written as you describe, I UNDERSTAND THIS.
What you have failed to read concerning my last post is that any, ANY law can be changed in order to reflect the political and social climate of the current government in power at the time of the proposed change.
This means that a data base where none existed prior to the law asking said question concerning firearms in the home could be accessed for purposes that were, AT THE TIME deemed UNLAWFUL as the law is currently written.
Shall I repeat this?
Lets repeat it for you;
What you have failed to read concerning my last post is that any, ANY law can be changed in order to reflect the political and social climate of the current government in power at the time of the proposed change.
This means that a data base where none existed prior to the law asking said question concerning firearms in the home could be accessed for purposes that were, AT THE TIME deemed UNLAWFUL as the law is currently written.
You'll be fine. Go lay down, it's Sunday after all.
I already do, and have for years. As part of the GI Bill, I'm eligible for medical care through the Veterans Administration, and every year, thousands of vets like myself must submit to a "MEANS TEST" if we want to continue receiving medical care and other veterans services.
In the link is the form all vets must submit for benefits.
These forms are given/submitted to low level federal employees, clerks/typists/administration specialists,
it's really not a big deal.
It may not be a big deal for you and many others. But look at the strange case of Elliot Spitzer. He came to the attention of the FBI via 'suspicious activity reports' issued by his bank to the feds. His large cash transactions in connection with his prostitution dealings triggered the reports. The feds investigated, and that's how his saga was uncovered. I have no sympathy for Spitzer, considering that he had aggressively busted prostitution rings as NY AG, but nonetheless his story is instructive when it comes to the effects of Big Brother policies.
The bureaucracy, like any predatory pack, will leave most of the herd alone. They will single out a few weak or sick prey to peel off and have their way with. Herd members like you will look on and say "not a big deal."
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