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Old 07-24-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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Precisely!

What happened to Bill Cosby when he spoke the truth? Hmmm?
He was widely celebrated, and continued giving similar speeches and reaching out to other individuals to stand up as good examples.

 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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If i want to hear someone opine on the black community, i'll listen to black people...the actual people who know something about it and LIVE IN IT. I don't care about the opinions of outsiders, and i have no obligation (or time) to listen to them.

So if that means that i don't have an open mind, so be it.
How has that mentality worked out for the Black community, so far?
 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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If i want to hear someone opine on the black community, i'll listen to black people...the actual people who know something about it and LIVE IN IT. I don't care about the opinions of outsiders, and i have no obligation (or time) to listen to them.

So if that means that i don't have an open mind, so be it.
thats good and all but whats good for the goose is good for the gander, fair enough?
 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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He was widely celebrated, and continued giving similar speeches and reaching out to other individuals to stand up as good examples.
Um... NO.

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After what has come to be known as “the Pound Cake speech”—it has its own Wikipedia entryCosby came under attack from various quarters of the black establishment. The playwright August Wilson commented, “A billionaire attacking poor people for being poor. Bill Cosby is a clown. What do you expect?” One of the gala’s hosts, Ted Shaw, the director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, called his comments “a harsh attack on poor black people in particular.” Dubbing Cosby an “Afristocrat in Winter,” the Georgetown University professor Michael Eric Dyson came out with a book, Is Bill Cosby Right? Or Has the Black Middle Class Lost Its Mind?, that took issue with Cosby’s bleak assessment of black progress and belittled his transformation from vanilla humorist to social critic and moral arbiter. “While Cosby took full advantage of the civil rights struggle,” argued Dyson, “he resolutely denied it a seat at his artistic table.”
Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic
 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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How has that mentality worked out for the Black community, so far?
What segment of the Black community are you writing about?

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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What segment of the Black community are you writing about?
The 70% who are born out of wedlock. Those who kill other Blacks at a rate 10 times higher than that of any other race. Need I go on?

Obama, Sharpton, and Jackson continually harp on race and race-bait. Either disavow them or OWN it. Your choice.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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I hate Fox News and Oreilly's thoughts almost 99.9% of the time.

I will (grudgingly) admit that he hit this nail on the head, 100%.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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How has that mentality worked out for the Black community, so far?
I can't tell you how it's working for the black dude in San Francisco, Atlanta, Miami, or Albuquerque....but it works GREAT for me.

I don't discuss black issues with non-blacks. Period. And i never will. Nor will i ever listen to opinions (such as O'Reilly's) about black folks or take their opinions under advisement.

What the next black person does is their business, not mine.

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thats good and all but whats good for the goose is good for the gander, fair enough?
Meaning?
 
Old 07-24-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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You should probably have read your own link.
 
Old 07-24-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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How has that mentality worked out for the Black community, so far?
We aren't a monolithic group and its funny to hear people who claim self responsibility try to lump all blacks together in order to feel good about themselves.

The glee and excitement by some whites when discussing black community problems is hilarious.

99% of people who discuss black community problems do so just because it gives them a chance to throw out stats that make them feel good about not being black.

How about asking blacks on CD how they are doing? I bet most are doing well but that wouldn't fit the agenda.

Sure blacks have problems... but so do other groups and it's never a positive to have someone outside of a race tell you how to fix your problems because they aren't trying to dig that deep to fix them.
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