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red states leading the gun deaths! what happened to all those filthy liberal run states where minorities are killing savages being on the top? suprise, surprise
hearing the cons, you would think NY/NJ would be at the top while its at the bottom
This link has me asking a LOT of questions. Hardly what I call incontrovertible proof of anything. The cited data, being under the heading of "most trigger happy" does not exactly speak to an unbiased and factual study. I see NV as ranking #6 in this, and since I live here, and rarely hear of shootouts, that makes me wonder what i formation was lumped together to come up with these numbers.
Vegas has it's issues. Actual murders are more common there than anywbere else in the state. They also have the strictest, local, gun laws. Criminals are stopped by armed citizens in the rest of the state, far more than criminals killing citizens. Are those numbers buried in these "stats"?
DC, is #the 1 I see. That seems to be a common denominator with all "gun death" stats one sees. Texas, which is so synonymous with "trigger happy rednecks", when liberal gun haters launch into tirades, is WAY down there. I don't know how much credibility I'm willing to give your link.
Were you there that night to reassure him of this made-up "fact", while Martin was breaking his nose, knocking him down, and slamming his head into the concrete again and again?
I didn't think so.
So what, exactly, does your belief matter in the case? Long after Zimmerman had to make some fast life-or-death decisions?
For god sakes, are you that fanatical about Zimmerman that people who simply disagree are "making up facts?" I said the evidence demonstrated he did not sustain any life threatening injuries nor did it demonstrate that he was close to death. All because you are engaged in a fight with a "big, bad black guy" does not mean the fight will end fatally.
Unless you can show me something other than the defendant's account that demonstrates he was physically at risk of death, knock it off.
For god sakes, are you that fanatical about Zimmerman that people who simply disagree are "making up facts?" I said the evidence demonstrated he did not sustain any life threatening injuries nor did it demonstrate that he was close to death. All because you are engaged in a fight with a "big, bad black guy" does not mean the fight will end fatally.
Unless you can show me something other than the defendant's account that demonstrates he was physically at risk of death, knock it off.
A reasonable person would believe that being punched in the head would make one fear for their life.
Plus GZ does not need to prove innocence, The People have to prove guilt
A reasonable person would believe that being punched in the head would make one fear for their life.
Plus GZ does not need to prove innocence, The People have to prove guilt
If I knew the other person hated me with a passion, I might think that being punched in the head might indicate murderous intent. But usually, no, I do not think a reasonable person would think a few punches being thrown puts your life at risk. Otherwise many fist-fights would end in death, and the vast majority do not.
If I knew the other person hated me with a passion, I might think that being punched in the head might indicate murderous intent. But usually, no, I do not think a reasonable person would think a few punches being thrown puts your life at risk. Otherwise many fist-fights would end in death, and the vast majority do not.
You can die by being punched in the head once, FYI.
So your going with a women should just be beaten relentlessly because the odds are she is not going to die argument. Instead of that women using a gun to protect herself, because that is unreasonable.
A reasonable person would believe that being punched in the head would make one fear for their life.
Plus GZ does not need to prove innocence, The People have to prove guilt
Have you ever been involved in a fight? 99% of the time, it's just an ass beating.
And this isn't about the trial. I'm just stating that fights are not fatal. I don't care about the %1 of incidents that you guys keep referring to that result in death. I can also quote the rare instances when people die from too much water. You don't take rare occurrences and extrapolate to mean it's now reasonable to believe that a fight, involving punches, means death is possible. Please.
Again, the scenario presented is that the thugs were unarmed, I thought.
If someone pulls a gun on me, I do whatever they say.
reread my post and tell me where i suggested that they pulled out a gun? i didnt. i suggested that the difference in deadlyness between a box cutter and a gun isnt much, so at that point why not carry a gun?
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It would take quite a while to kill someone with one of those. Maybe if the person was totally unconscious you could kill them with a tiny boxcutter, but on a conscious person, highly unlikely.
really? take your box cutter, and slice a person open from just behind the left ear to the throat, and it will take that person a few seconds to bleed out. and unless a paramedic is right there that person will die long before help can arrive. its not the wound, its the location of the wound. same with a gunshot. if i shoot you in the shoulder, you likely wont die, but you will be out of the fight. if i shoot you in the heart, chances are you will die. if you cut someone on the arm, chances are they wont die, but if you cut them on the neck in the right area they will. and it can be done with someone who is conscious and fighting you, you just need to find your opening.
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I don't know how much credibility I'm willing to give your link.
