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Old 07-26-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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No company in its right mind would move to such a tenuous situation. Maybe Dollar General.

Given all the federal money you'd be losing, you'd be best advised not to lower any taxes.
The Federal Government makes it harder for US companies to compete globally. Companies would flee to Texas.

You don't seem to understand that the market is Global.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Lol. What you fail to understand is Texas would lower their corporate tax substantially, and many of the companies in the US would flee to Texas. The GDP would rise.
Texas currently has no corporate income tax. So why isn't every major company fleeing to Texas already?
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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You are the fool. Not everyone wants to join you on your fool's ship.
"You are the fool. Not everyone wants to join you on your fool's ship."

Funny how your own statement applies to you more than me. You're the one suggesting secession for reason whatsoever and have little faith in our economy (which will recover in due time). Fool foolishly attempting to fool the unfoolish is foolishly foolish.

I actually feel sorry for you.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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"You are the fool. Not everyone wants to join you on your fool's ship."

Funny how your own statement applies to you more than me. You're the one suggesting secession for reason whatsoever and have little faith in our economy (which will recover in due time). Fool foolishly attempting to fool the unfoolish is foolishly foolish.

I actually feel sorry for you.
LOL at your recovery. Explain to me how it will recover.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Fine. We'll close all those U.S. military bases. Then we can halt aid to Texas. In fiscal 2009, the IRS collected about $163 billion from Texans and the state received about $224 billion, for a net gain of $61 billion.

Oh I forgot, a state doesn't have a right to secede.
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A State can secede. There is nothing in the Constitution that bars a State from seceding. Worse than that, all powers that are not expressly denied to the States are granted to the States in the 9th and 10th Amendments.

Since the States are not barred from seceding, they can legally secede.

Texas does not need federal aid. It pays more out federally than it receives. And if Texas feels threatened by the US, its Special Forces teams in the new Texas Army could send the US into recession for 8 to 10 years.
No, a state cannot secede:


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U.S. Supreme Court
STATE OF TEXAS v. WHITE, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)

74 U.S. 700 (Wall.)

TEXAS
v.
WHITE ET AL.

December Term, 1868

....
The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States.

Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null.
....
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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LOL at your recovery. Explain to me how it will recover.
No.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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"except through revolution, or through consent of the States."

So, the court left a loophole or two FOR secession!
There are always exceptions. ALWAYS!
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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No.
Because you have no idea. You listen to rhetoric and you blindly believe it. You should do a thorough investigation of your economic situation and you would come to the conclusion.

You have a labor surplus and you cannot compete globally.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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"except through revolution, or through consent of the States."

So, the court left a loophole or two FOR secession!
There are always exceptions. ALWAYS!
There's always an exception; however, if an uprising happened in Texas then the rest of the nation would send in the ground troops to shut it down and there won't be enough support in the states for a secession. We're in 2013, there's no need for it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:58 AM
 
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There's always an exception; however, if an uprising happened in Texas then the rest of the nation would send in the ground troops to shut it down and there won't be enough support in the states for a secession. We're in 2013, there's no need for it.
Texas would engage in asymmetric warfare and the US would surrender quickly.
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