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Old 07-26-2013, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Dunn's attorney, Robin Lemonidis, told CNN Monday that Dunn told police that he reacted after having seen a gun barrel in the window of the teens' car and after hearing a profanity-laced string of threats against him and his girlfriend while the teens motioned they were opening the door.


Nothing wrong with asking someone to be a decent human being and turn down their loud music - whether it's rap or Beethoven. They could have just said no, we're happy acting like jerks. Instead, Dunn alleges that they cursed at him and made threats, and that he saw a gun. That is enough to make a reasonable person feel threatened, although the article isn't specific as to what those threats were.


I wonder if there were witnesses or security video. There was no gun found, but perhaps one of the surviving teens got rid of it before the cops arrived. Also, he should have called the police immediately after leaving the scene, especially if he suspected gang activity in the area.
thats the problem right there
i can allege i saw a gun, does that mean i can kill someone? (if there was none)
and of course they threw the gun out, there is NO chance in hell that he jus made it up...
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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No, but acting in a threatening manner which might cause the man who defended himself to fear for his life would be a justifiable reason.

It is too early to make a judgment one way or the other anyway, so what is wrong with asking pertinent questions?

Aren't you interested in the truth?
He wasn't defending himself. He pulled up to the teens and told them to turn off their music. When they did not he shot them and shot at their car as it was driving away. He is currently facing 3 attempted murder and 1 murder charge.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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He wasn't defending himself. He pulled up to the teens and told them to turn off their music. When they did not he shot them and shot at their car as it was driving away. He is currently facing 3 attempted murder and 1 murder charge.
You forgot to mention the part about the teens shouting obscenities and threatening him.

That is why they were shot, it had nothing to do with their music.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good LIE.
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:59 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You forgot to mention the part about the teens shouting obscenities and threatening him.

That is why they were shot, it had nothing to do with their music.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good LIE.
this of course changes everything, shouting obscenities should def be punishable by death...
esp when the murderer alleges it...he has no reason to lie at all...
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Old 07-26-2013, 01:59 PM
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And so could Trayvon to include NOT throwing the first punch?
No evidence to support that this is how it went down.
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There was no gun found, but perhaps one of the surviving teens got rid of it before the cops arrived.
Or perhaps it's just a lie that was made up in an attempt to get away with murdering an unarmed person.

The proper response to someone not being nice to you is not to pull out your gun and murder them.

The lesson that comes out of cases like this is that if you want to be a psycho thug, you better be a good psycho thug and finish the job so your victims can't tell their side of the story. Then you're free to make up a bunch of lies about fictional guns and "threats" and get away with it.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:00 PM
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Harrier wonders if the town or county has a local noise ordinance.
A noise ordinance violation that is punishable by death? I doubt that even exists in a place like Iran or Singapore.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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this of course changes everything, shouting obscenities should def be punishable by death...
esp when the murderer alleges it...he has no reason to lie at all...
What "murderer"?

You definitely don't belong in law enforcement if you don't understand the concept of being considered innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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You forgot to mention the part about the teens shouting obscenities and threatening him.

That is why they were shot, it had nothing to do with their music.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good LIE.
Shouting obscenities wouldn't cause a reasonable person to fear their life.
There is no reason to shoot at a car that is driving away.
You are the only person to ever defend this guy.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2...g-jordan-davis
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Shouting obscenities wouldn't cause a reasonable person to fear their life.
There is no reason to shoot at a car that is driving away.
You are the only person to ever defend this guy.

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Michael Dunn remains adamant in police interview after killing Jordan Davis | jacksonville.com
such a low skill actor
u can tell how he tries to make himself look innocent like he meant no harm, all friendly and sh, foh
on top of erything, what person that truly thinks he is innocent leaves the scene?
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Old 07-26-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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No, it isn't. There are specifics in Self Defense, not in stand your ground. You only have to "feel" threatened in SYG. It's subjective.
No, you don't have to just "feel" threatened. You actually have to BE threatened. You can't claim SYG if you are paranoid and think someone is out to get you. SYG trials should NEVER go to a jury, they shouldn't even be trials. If you are claiming SYG, you need to prove it was necessary and the judge decides if it is feasible, not a jury. When you put juries on this any outcome is possible even if it is the wrong one. Self defense is a different story.
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