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]We have elected two moderates, what is the definition of insanity?[/b] trying the same thing over and over and over again and expecting difference results.
After Christie just came out as a Neo Con (think big government Republicans, Bush and son) he just lose alot of his base and any would be independents.
Oh boy two moderates great for you. The insanity is voting for conservatives who want to limit women's and minorities rights. Who would really vote for these guys?
Oh boy two moderates great for you. The insanity is voting for conservatives who want to limit women's and minorities rights. Who would really vote for these guys?
what minorities rights? what voter ID laws? not rewarding illegal immigration? as for women rights, I am pro choice, after all Liberals are more then 7 times more like to have an abortion.I have no right to stop them.
That's the problem with a "big tent" you win the presidency....with a guy that's over towards the middle.
In fact, at that point, it's easier for the republicans to push their legislation because the illiterate uninformed masses won't object because their guy in the whitehouse signed it. Before you object, read up on NAFTA and DOMA just to name 2.
P.S. Works the other way too, the republicans have just as many uninformed syncophants.
Voters are generally stupid and uninformed by choice.
They are simply too lazy, prejudiced and distracted to bother even trying to understand what is happening right in front of their face.
This indifference is made possible by an ever mounting debt load that buys tolerance for DC's power grabbing, incompetence and corruption.
This passive acceptance of corruption and dishonestly will continue until the free government benefits and artificially low taxes federal deficit spending facilitates can no longer be provided.
On that day, when all the easy answers go away and we can no longer continue kicking the can up the road, then we will all have to grow-up and become conservatives.
It will be important on that day that a viable political alternative to the Santa Claus Democrats and RINOs be in place and ready to take over.
Between now and then, the usual cast of characters, both Democrats and Republicans, will agree with each other than more borrowed money should be spent on shiftless political supporters who vote for a living, greedy public sector unions that launder money stolen from the public treasury for the benefit of current office holders and soulless international corporations that play ball with their sleazy reptilian allies in DC.
Tea Party affiliated candidates and other highly principled conservatives won't make many friends by opposing the looting of the treasury and may not even win very many elections while voter bribery based on deficit spending continues, but this will change because it cannot continue.
The Republicans are guilty of this more than the Democrats...attacking their own party members that don't hold fast to the party line. Yes a party has to stand for a platform...but only the sheep agree 100% with 100% of the issues of either big party...a party must also be willing to embrace those that stray on some issues with out smearing them.
I do agree with the Democrats on some issues...back ground checks, gay rights, some but not all of the social type issues, etc...
OP, I agree with you fully, but you must realize the GOP panders to its rural base foolishly (The base have no alternative anyway), and POTUS elections are won with 270 electoral votes, a far higher number than much of that uneducated base can count to. (It would be 11 times their 24 fingers and toes plus 6. )
Voters are generally stupid and uninformed by choice.
They are simply too lazy, prejudiced and distracted to bother even trying to understand what is happening right in front of their face.
This indifference is made possible by an ever mounting debt load that buys tolerance for DC's power grabbing, incompetence and corruption.
This passive acceptance of corruption and dishonestly will continue until the free government benefits and artificially low taxes federal deficit spending facilitates can no longer be provided.
On that day, when all the easy answers go away and we can no longer continue kicking the can up the road, then we will all have to grow-up and become conservatives.
It will be important on that day that a viable political alternative to the Santa Claus Democrats and RINOs be in place and ready to take over.
Between now and then, the usual cast of characters, both Democrats and Republicans, will agree with each other than more borrowed money should be spent on shiftless political supporters who vote for a living, greedy public sector unions that launder money stolen from the public treasury for the benefit of current office holders and soulless international corporations that play ball with their sleazy reptilian allies in DC.
Tea Party affiliated candidates and other highly principled conservatives won't make many friends by opposing the looting of the treasury and may not even win very many elections while voter bribery based on deficit spending continues, but this will change because it cannot continue.
Your logic is flawed.
There are many fiscal conservatives that more than less agree with the fiscal arguments you just made...but we ARE considered RINO's because we support gay rights and the like. Some of the very voters you want are being discouraged away from the GOP.
If you can't beat your opponent's ideas, you distort those ideas -- maybe you just make some up! If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as somebody people should run away from. You make big elections about small things.
One of the rare times where Obama was truthful about his deception.
A moderate is your best shot for the presidency but I guess you would shoot yourself in the foot before you would vote for them. A conservative and all their social issues will never be in the white house.
Moderates are all the GOP has been running with not very much success.
Moderates are all the GOP has been running with not very much success.
Is the perception that Romney is a moderate, when the Obama-PACs are outright lying about him letting some lady die of cancer?
P.S. I love how Obama gets away with being disingenuous. In 2008 Obama calls out John Edwards for not straightening out the Edwards-PACs that were attacking him with the argument that everyone knows that a candidate can make statements to straighten them out even though no coordination is allowed.
Then when Obama-PACs are outright lying in their attacks he says everyone knows that no coordination is allowed so he can't reign them in.
There are many fiscal conservatives that more than less agree with the fiscal arguments you just made...but we ARE considered RINO's because we support gay rights and the like. Some of the very voters you want are being discouraged away from the GOP.
I rarely hear Reps being called RINO's because they support "gay rights" or "women's rights".
Guys like McCain, Graham and now Christie are called RINOs because they support core Democrat issues like big spending(anti-TEA, pro bailout, pro stimulus etc) amnesty and gun control. Romney was seen as a RINO because of Romneycare and his stance on global warming.
You're never going to find the perfect politician so you have to vote your priorities. If fiscal conservativism is important then don't vote for RINOs, and obviously Democrats are out since there are basically zero fiscally conservative Democrats. If social issues are more important vote for a RINO I guess, but keep in mind RINOs in practice vote with Democrats on everything but the most hard-left issues.
I'm trying to think of an issue that McCain would vote to the right of Obama on and I can't think of one... I guess McCain doesn't support free abortions and contraception? Since you support liberal social issues like that shouldn't you just vote Dem?
I wish all the RINOs would switch to the Democratic Party. Just get them out of the party and make room for real conservatives.
But that wouldn't be in the best interests of the one percent so it hasn't happened. Yet.
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great for you. The insanity is voting for conservatives who want to limit women's and minorities rights. Who would really vote for these guys?
