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Old 10-17-2013, 03:51 AM
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Location: Florida
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$1400 a month for someone, like me earning less than $90,000 a year is not affordable health coverage--$500 is.
You apparently don't know what the word "affordable" means. It means that the cost of this essential expense fits within your income with all other non-discretionary spending, food, clothing, shelter, etc., before any discretionary spending is considered. Post your full budget, and we'll pick it apart for you. If you want to use yourself as an example, then open your books.

That's not the say that 100% of everyone is able to afford healthcare under ACA, but rather that tens of millions more Americans are able to do so as compared to pre-ACA. ACA is an improvement; not an absolute 100% end-of-story resolution to all problems that exist.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:30 AM
 
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You apparently don't know what the word "affordable" means. It means that the cost of this essential expense fits within your income with all other non-discretionary spending, food, clothing, shelter, etc., before any discretionary spending is considered. Post your full budget, and we'll pick it apart for you. If you want to use yourself as an example, then open your books.
That's so selfish and immoral of you.

Give all your money.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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No. Tax Wall St. stock turnover on a daily basis. That's a much better plan. Of course, to discourage people from buying pre-processed junk food, tax all food that is not raw, and subsidize all organic food
there is no money in that for politician friends who own huge farms. I say eat local, grow local. I really wish there was some incentive for farmers markets.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:11 AM
 
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How about we just tax anyone currently registered as a Democrat. They wanted this, they should pay for it.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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No. Tax Wall St. stock turnover on a daily basis. That's a much better plan. Of course, to discourage people from buying pre-processed junk food, tax all food that is not raw, and subsidize all organic food
it is all about money, there is not much of that in small organic farmers.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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how about no?


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I know this question may sound outrageous and straight out ludicrous. It's even a long shot for me to even go there about taxing our food to fund Obama Care. But the reason, I say tax the food is because most American's diet and health are strictly related to bad eating habits. Since a large number of American are clinically obese, wouldn't it make sense to tax the food that Americans eat to fund Obama Care? I ask this question because eventually bad eating is going to cause them to be a burden on our health system (costing tax payers billions anyway) from getting high medical cost chronic diseases that result from poor eating.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:49 PM
 
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Taxing food is immoral.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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I know this question may sound outrageous and straight out ludicrous. It's even a long shot for me to even go there about taxing our food to fund Obama Care. But the reason, I say tax the food is because most American's diet and health are strictly related to bad eating habits. Since a large number of American are clinically obese, wouldn't it make sense to tax the food that Americans eat to fund Obama Care? I ask this question because eventually bad eating is going to cause them to be a burden on our health system (costing tax payers billions anyway) from getting high medical cost chronic diseases that result from poor eating.
No.

Hit tobacco and alcohol with high rates. Two items that will always sell to fund a single payer system, not that abortion we currently allowed to be born.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:21 PM
 
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The last five years of a healthy life.

That's the kicker. Like I said, obese people are less costly cuz they don't live as long (sometimes nearly as long) and have a better chance of dying quickly from their ailments.

Generally speaking of course.

This is the crazy system we are in. Nothing makes sense.

The healthy people who live long will just keep living longer due to improvements in medicine. Care for Alzheimers and dementia is going to kill us financially cuz folks are going to get it and keep plugging along for years to come.

Again, welcome to bizarro world. The only thing that makes sense in the system is to die...like right now.

We are f'd.
thats it today Imma OD on my twinkies..I cant take it anymore....lol
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:23 PM
 
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How about we just tax anyone currently registered as a Democrat. They wanted this, they should pay for it.
ohhhhh now that is a good one! lets make sure to close all the loopholes too, you know they like those!
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