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I know a lot of people who are far from poor who use cloth diapers. It's not rocket science to use cloth diapers, it does take effort and most of these people want maximum results with least amount of effort.
But it does require a lot of effort to make sure it is clean. People who are willing to do so much effort, are not likely to be that poor.
Actually what really happens if people are too poor to buy diapers can be seen in China where previously most families could not afford it. They would cut a hole in the back of the pants. If they do it inside, they will clean it up. If it is outside then they will just ignore it.
If the income inequality gets too large, then that will happen in the US as well. People are not going to start using cloth diapers.
But it does require a lot of effort to make sure it is clean. People who are willing to do so much effort, are not likely to be that poor.
People are not going to start using cloth diapers.
BS. Tulani described above how the cloth diapers can be cleaned - and that is not that difficult.
plus if you potty train your baby for #2 from 6-7 mo old ( which is very easy if you spend time with your baby), than washing only urine-soiled diapers in a household with running hot and cold water is absolutely not a problem.
BS. Tulani described above how the cloth diapers can be cleaned - and that is not that difficult.
plus if you potty train your baby for #2 from 6-7 mo old ( which is very easy if you spend time with your baby), than washing only urine-soiled diapers in a household with running hot and cold water is absolutely not a problem.
I agree with this. I cloth diapers my youngest and it was cost effective AND she was potty trained at 18 months with minimal effort. I was a SAHM who, at the time, probably could have been on some sort of assistance but wasn't. I breastfed and cloth diapered to save money on baby expenses instead.
using cloth diapers doesn't take that much effort. You rinse them, then wash them and that's that.
I agree with this. I cloth diapers my youngest and it was cost effective AND she was potty trained at 18 months with minimal effort. I was a SAHM who, at the time, probably could have been on some sort of assistance but wasn't. I breastfed and cloth diapered to save money on baby expenses instead.
using cloth diapers doesn't take that much effort. You rinse them, then wash them and that's that.
I'm by no means an expert but mb157 made it sound like you had to beat the things with rocks to get them clean.
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Hey the government should supply the laundry soap for those less fortunate. Create a new agency for soap. I'm sure liberals would be all for it especially if it garnered some votes to go along with it. Buying votes any way possible is the mantra.
Cloth diapering is much more complicated that just rinsing out a stinky diaper in the sink.
First, you need to do a cold pre rinse. Then, a hot rinse with a specific type of detergent (which can be $$$). Then another rinse to ensure there is not residue left on the diapers from said detergent. These are necessary steps, as not enough rinsing can lead to an ammonia buildup in the diapers. Most diapers can only be dried on a low heat setting, which takes much more time. I personally dry mine on a clothes line in the backyard. How much money do you think these steps require? Also, many Laundromats will not allow you to wash cloth diapers.
Then there is the startup cost, which can be astronomical. There are the old fashioned diapers, prefolds and covers, and enough to last a single child one day is around $50, for 12 prefolds and 3 covers. That is considering that you need to wash them every day.
So how is an extremely poor person using cloth diapers? They're not. If you're living paycheck to paycheck it's much easier to come up with $20 for the store brand disposables than to pay $50 for diapers that last one day plus frequent washing.
I have a friend right now whose ex-husband (he left her--it wasn't her fault) is unemployed and paying zero child support.
You know, while it's possible this particular guy is a real dirt bag, the reality is relationships are a work in progress. You sure she doesn't share ANY blame for the failed relationship? I've noticed a trend in divorces, it's ALWAYS the other persons fault, ALWAYS.
My wife and I rarely argue anymore, but when we miss-communicate, there is always shared blame, it's never completely one sided.
We live with many modern conveniences, my grandmother talks about in the 1950's raising two kids in a 20x20 garage house where all 4 of them slept in the same room, her mixing up her own starch to press grandpa's shirts after walking (with the kids) to the help-your-self laundry. After coming home she had to hang the laundry to air dry, cook dinner (no microwave), give the kids a bath, clean up after dinner (she WAS the dishwasher). And yes, she only used cloth diapers.
I think the poor back then had it harder than the poor do today.
Cloth diapering is much more complicated that just rinsing out a stinky diaper in the sink.
First, you need to do a cold pre rinse. Then, a hot rinse with a specific type of detergent (which can be $$$). Then another rinse to ensure there is not residue left on the diapers from said detergent. These are necessary steps, as not enough rinsing can lead to an ammonia buildup in the diapers. Most diapers can only be dried on a low heat setting, which takes much more time. I personally dry mine on a clothes line in the backyard. How much money do you think these steps require? Also, many Laundromats will not allow you to wash cloth diapers.
Then there is the startup cost, which can be astronomical. There are the old fashioned diapers, prefolds and covers, and enough to last a single child one day is around $50, for 12 prefolds and 3 covers. That is considering that you need to wash them every day.
So how is an extremely poor person using cloth diapers? They're not. If you're living paycheck to paycheck it's much easier to come up with $20 for the store brand disposables than to pay $50 for diapers that last one day plus frequent washing.
I agree with this. I cloth diapers my youngest and it was cost effective AND she was potty trained at 18 months with minimal effort. I was a SAHM who, at the time, probably could have been on some sort of assistance but wasn't. I breastfed and cloth diapered to save money on baby expenses instead.
using cloth diapers doesn't take that much effort. You rinse them, then wash them and that's that.
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I'm by no means an expert but mb157 made it sound like you had to beat the things with rocks to get them clean.
If you have a washing machine at home, cloth diapers aren't that big of a hassle--I stopped using them for other reasons. If you read the discussion, it was revolving around poor women who don't have access to a washer at home, and have trouble affording the laundromat costs for additional laundry, transportation to the laundromat numerous times a week, etc. Others here were trying to claim that it's super easy to just swish them around in the bath tub every night instead of washing them by machine. Poop soaked diapers almost DO need to be beaten with a rock if you're going to hand wash them--you can't just scrub the fabric together in the sink and get the germs and stains out. You'd need a washboard. You also have to kill the bacteria in them, which means boiling, because you can't hand wash in water hot enough to kill the germs. If you hand wash your diapers, and you're not willing to do those things, then you're putting filthy germ loaded diapers right back on your baby.
I'm by no means an expert but mb157 made it sound like you had to beat the things with rocks to get them clean.
that is absolute BS.
you do not have to use anything hard - rinse the s*** in the toilet while it is not yet dry and then wash in hot water with soap( you do not have to do that washing immediately)then boil for sterility.
Or iron if you do not want to boil.
In a house where one has running hot and cold water washing the diapers for one baby is not a problem. And since the baby is alredy 11 months old he can easily be potty trained so the only diapers left will be urine-soaked.
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