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Old 07-30-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I am a scientist and I do not worship "SCIENCE" because there is nothing to worship. Science is a collection of techniques along with a modicum of proven facts that fit the observed information. Many of the facts become disproven when more accurate observations are made. Science is a way to discover what is instead of what they told me is.

All religions state with the postulate that there is a Supreme Being called GOD. That is their first mistake. Their second is trying to make me and others believe anyway
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Shhhhhhh...the right wing religious nutjobs can't tolerate things such as facts. That kind of talk just gets in the way of their ignorance.

And I thought Texas was bad. Way to go Kentucky, you've clearly passed us in your level of zealotry. I don't feel so bad now!
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Science can indeed be fascist....science is a tool and can be used for very bad things.
Religion, on the other hand, has been a highly moral and peaceful institution throughout human history...
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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"Kentucky" said no such thing. According to your post, "The Kentucky Board of Education adopted the standards in June and held hearings to get public feedback on the standards last week before they were presented to the state legislature for official approval." They have heard dissent from some people.
Yeah, I was going to say that.

This thread title isn't just misleading, it's an outright lie. The Commonwealth of Kentucky (they're a commonwealth, right?) isn't doing anything of the sort.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Religion, on the other hand, has been a highly moral and peaceful institution throughout human history...
Can we get a Hallelujah!?
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:54 PM
 
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it depends.

If they want to introduce Mein Kampf or Lenin to study - it is fascist and socialism
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Religion, on the other hand, has been a highly moral and peaceful institution throughout human history...
Why are you telling me this?
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Yes, that is well known. But the problem with science is that many of these "objective facts" are just sophistry painted as such.
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fMR imaging and it's data interpretations are probably the poster boy.
'Poster boy'? LOL. I wonder why he chose functional magnetic resonance imaging as the 'poster boy'?

I could guess that he has his knickers in a knot because there are some studies using fMRI, MRI and PET scans that show observable differences in brain structure and functioning between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

His blind prejudice against gay and lesbian people therefore leads him to reject out of hand a scientific/medical tool that is very useful in a lot of research on the brain eg Alzheimer's, brain tumors etc.

I doubt he even knows how fMRI works.

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Old 07-30-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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"Fascist" and "Socialism"... 21st century code words that stupid people use to vilify things they don't understand.

Ironically, one of the best arguments against evolution are the hicks in Kentucky.
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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"Fascist" and "Socialism"... 21st century code words that stupid people use to vilify things they don't understand.
Both Lenin and Mussolini were Heliocentrists - what more do you need to know about this so-called "scientific fact"?
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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'Poster boy'? LOL.

I could guess that he has his knickers in a knot because there are some studies using fMRI that show observable differences in brain structure and functioning between heterosexuals and homosexuals.

His blind prejudice against gay and lesbian people therefore leads him to reject out of hand a scientific/medical tool that is very useful in a lot of research on the brain eg Alzheimer's, brain tumors etc.

I doubt he even knows how fMRI works.
No...see this is where you are being dishonest. I never dismissed fMRI as a potentially useful tool. It MAY help reach conclusions one day on sexual orientation....or it may just go the phrenology route.

it's nice for obtuse observations but nothing meaningful, in regards to sexual orientation, has come from it.

The fact remains that you try and pass off your far drawn conclusions from very broad computer modeled interpretations as legit science.
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