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Old 08-10-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: North America
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Honestly, I think the Republicans are going to shed seats in the House in 2014. So far, that's my prediction.
I agree with you there. They will likely have to spend money in KY and GA to win seats *possibly anyway* that they should win by landslides. Taking away money from battles in places that they could unseat democrats in. Not to mention the tea party factor which will make winnable races unwinnable by putting up people so far right as to be off the map. Think 2014 will be bad? Wait until 2016 .

 
Old 08-10-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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As for the OP.....They could do it, but they would get blamed for it. The congress under newt gingrach had far better approval ratings than this congress, and they suffered for shutting things down. I imagine this Congress would get decimated in the polls for doing it.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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As for the OP.....They could do it, but they would get blamed for it. The congress under newt gingrach had far better approval ratings than this congress, and they suffered for shutting things down. I imagine this Congress would get decimated in the polls for doing it.
Do you care to quote the loss and gain of the house and the senate, by dem or repub, at the next election after the shut down....if so are you willing to do it honestly....?
 
Old 08-10-2013, 05:03 PM
 
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Do you care to quote the loss and gain of the house and the senate, by dem or repub, at the next election after the shut down....if so are you willing to do it honestly....?
Presuming the economy continues to improve, which appears very likely at this point, the Repubs will have great problems retaining the house and have no shot at the Senate.

If they do something really dumb like shutting down the government they will lose control of the house.

This is obviously a demo election coming up with the economy the way it is going. Obamacare will likely go reasonably well or, perhaps better than the Republicans are projection, which turns it to a democrat advantage.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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The key for Republicans to retain, and possibly gain seats is to successfully define the narrative of the budget. So long as they can draw the clear distinction between attempts to restore fiscal sanity and the complete lack of governance on the part of the Senate Democrats, while not going apoplectic about defunding Obamacare or anything else, they will be just fine. They cannot sit back and let Dems control the narrative, they must be proactive and unafraid to say it like it is.
 
Old 08-10-2013, 06:13 PM
 
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Presuming the economy continues to improve, which appears very likely at this point, the Repubs will have great problems retaining the house and have no shot at the Senate.

If they do something really dumb like shutting down the government they will lose control of the house.

This is obviously a demo election coming up with the economy the way it is going. Obamacare will likely go reasonably well or, perhaps better than the Republicans are projection, which turns it to a democrat advantage.
Well, since the poster I was responding to, was talking about the last time the government shut down (gringrich), do you care to make another statement?
 
Old 08-10-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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Presuming the economy continues to improve, which appears very likely at this point, the Repubs will have great problems retaining the house and have no shot at the Senate.

If they do something really dumb like shutting down the government they will lose control of the house.

This is obviously a demo election coming up with the economy the way it is going. Obamacare will likely go reasonably well or, perhaps better than the Republicans are projection, which turns it to a democrat advantage.
Sorry you did not define whether you were dealing with the Gingrich shutdown or the one presently being contemplated. I prefer the future one.

You are of course avoiding dealing with the likely outcome I described. Don't care for what is going to happen?
 
Old 08-11-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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A larger, and more pressing question is why have the Democrats in the Senate failed to pass a budget in over four years? Dems love to shout obstructionism and point at the GOP, but a large part of the reason that DC is devolving into these petty, partisan brawls over things like the debt limit increases is from having to run the government on Continuing Resolution Authority for the last 4 years. It is incredibly irresponsible, and impacting all areas of the federal government from the places Dems hate like the DoD, CIA, FBI, to the big government things they love like the EPA, NEA, etc. How can people claim GOP obstructionism with a straight face when the Democrat controlled senate has held the federal budget hostage for 4 years, including 1 year when they still had a majority in the House?!?
You provided the answer to your own question. They are democrats and if they don't get exactly what they want it is because of republican obstructionism.

Just can't be because what they want is stupid or wrong.
 
Old 08-11-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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It appears, based on the low approval ratings, that the majority of the public also blames the Republicans. IF they go through with their childish antics and cause a government shut down, as the RWNJ's are currently threatening, it will only hurt the party further.

Go for it.
Good thing that you can ignore the approval rating of the democrats when you make such a silly statement as this.

But what can one expect from partisanship such as you display.
 
Old 08-11-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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The Repub party is going to end up badly damaged by its right wing that take the position of no compromise. You cannot claim to be dealing openly and fairly with such a position.

So yes the Repubs will take it in the teeth on any such situation.
Then, by your logic, the dem party is going to end up badly damaged by its refusal to compromise with anything the right puts forth, correct?

You seem to ignore (purposely) that there are two sides who refuse to compromise.

But that's alright, continue with your blind partisan statements.
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