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Old 08-02-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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How many years now? Oh yeah 4.5

Truly sad.
It really is hilarious. Nothing is ever King Obama's fault.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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How many years now? Oh yeah 4.5

Truly sad.
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. The problem is far too many willing to excuse anything not based upon their principles but rather based upon who is in office.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If Bush had done this he would have also had a large number of defenders.
FWIW the Bush administration had much more educated advisors.
The Bush administration had how many "phony scandals" ?

Obama and his crew of trusty advisors are a bunch of newbies in the WH.
They think the "global sandbox" is theirs for the taking like America is.

They are sadly finding out they can't get away with whatever they like in the global arena.

They made a worse mess of this war on terror.
And now the threat of violence has the State Dept shutting down embassies all over the ME and North Africa for "at least" one day.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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If Bush had done this he would have also had a large number of defenders.
Obama has more mindless supporters than any US politician in my lifetime. You can point out a fact that shows Obama is in the wrong and 100% of the blame belongs on him alone and STILL people will refuse to hold him accountable as they make up excuses or bring up Bush.

For instance, Obama said he would post all non-emergency bills passed by congress online for 5 days before signing them into law...so that the public could debate and read over the bill. A part of his 'most transparent administration in history.' Well he breaks this promise left and right...he broke it on his first law...he is the only person responsible for breaking his own promise. Fulfilling this promise would require him to tell a staffer to post it online and then wait 5 days...people on here still refused to give him any blame for it.

Obama has under-performed as president, because his supporters for the most part refuse to hold him accountable.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: DFW
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They made a worse mess of this war on terror.
And now the threat of violence has the State Dept shutting down embassies all over the ME and North Africa for "at least" one day.
Can Nobel recall his well earned "Peace Prize" ?

Maybe reissue to Ed Snowden.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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FWIW the Bush administration had much more educated advisors.
The Bush administration had how many "phony scandals" ?
Whoever advised him to spend 10 years and many lives in Iraq was anything but educated.

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Obama and his crew of trusty advisors are a bunch of newbies in the WH.
They think the "global sandbox" is theirs for the taking like America is.

They are sadly finding out they can't get away with whatever they like in the global arena.
Like nation building in Afghanistan?

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They made a worse mess of this war on terror.
And now the threat of violence has the State Dept shutting down embassies all over the ME and North Africa for "at least" one day.
They are indeed making it worse. It's too bad we didn't stop it before he had a chance to build upon the mess.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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Obama has more mindless supporters than any US politician in my lifetime. You can point out a fact that shows Obama is in the wrong and 100% of the blame belongs on him alone and STILL people will refuse to hold him accountable as they make up excuses or bring up Bush.

For instance, Obama said he would post all non-emergency bills passed by congress online for 5 days before signing them into law...so that the public could debate and read over the bill. A part of his 'most transparent administration in history.' Well he breaks this promise left and right...he broke it on his first law...he is the only person responsible for breaking his own promise. Fulfilling this promise would require him to tell a staffer to post it online and then wait 5 days...people on here still refused to give him any blame for it.

Obama has under-performed as president, because his supporters for the most part refuse to hold him accountable.
He has failed as a president. Sadly this is two in a row that will have created a wasted 16 years.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Whoever advised him to spend 10 years and many lives in Iraq was anything but educated.



Like nation building in Afghanistan?



They are indeed making it worse. It's too bad we didn't stop it before he had a chance to build upon the mess.
Not what I asked.

You said "If Bush...."
So how many "phony scandals" did Bush have ?

The newbies in DC have done more harm in 4.5 years than the years from 9/11 up to 2008.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm no defender of Bush but he did have a better advisory team than Obama does.
Chicago style politics and activist emotion getting speeches don't cut it outside the US.

What we should have done years ago was covert operation to take out bin Laden.
Not a military invasion. It ended up being a covert operation that found him anyway and in a country we hadn't invaded yet.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. The problem is far too many willing to excuse anything not based upon their principles but rather based upon who is in office.
4.5 years.
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