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Old 08-06-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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Huh. Cons posting here about how stupid Obama is to do that in 5, 4, 3 ...
Obama making another speech about how horrible Republicans are for not raising the debt ceiling after he said raising the debt ceiling was reckless and irresponsible when he was in Congress in 5, 4, 3 ...
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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Or maybe you should study your countries' history and you will find that dendrochronology suggests there will be a severe drought.

Put down the remote control.
We are already in a severe drought. I believe the current drought started 2 years ago.
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:52 PM
 
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Of course you can tune around it, the truth of the matter is, ethanol produces less energy upon combustion, which means lower gas mileage, no matter how much you tune for it.
really? run the compression ratio up about 1/2 a point, advance the ignition timing a few extra degrees, both to take advantage of the higher octane rating of ethanol, and you can pick up any fuel economy you lost by switching to e10 fuel. and if you were to delve deeper and do a cam swap, you can pick even more fuel economy, and still be detonation free with the less expensive fuel.

and if you were to switch to E85, bump the compression about 1 1/2 points, add even more timing, and you can gain power along with fuel economy.
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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We are already in a severe drought. I believe the current drought started 2 years ago.
He is talking end of life as we know it drought.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:17 AM
 
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He's after the total volume requirement already written into law for next year, which would eliminate the need to go up from 10%.



We need it ALL gone- 0%.

Feed, food, and cars and our water supply will love it.

10% Ethanol decreases MPG by 10%.

Add the problems and waste in that go along with it and it's a no brainer.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:47 AM
 
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We are already in a severe drought. I believe the current drought started 2 years ago.
This season has some of the best fruit in years. Seriously.......I have no idea where you are at but because of all of the rain fruit is extra juicy this year.

I just had some of the best peaches I've ever had.
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Huh. Cons posting here about how stupid Obama is to do that in 5, 4, 3 ...

Even a blind golfer can sink a putt 1 out of a 1,000+ tries.
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There are midterm elections coming up next year...
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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really? run the compression ratio up about 1/2 a point, advance the ignition timing a few extra degrees, both to take advantage of the higher octane rating of ethanol, and you can pick up any fuel economy you lost by switching to e10 fuel. and if you were to delve deeper and do a cam swap, you can pick even more fuel economy, and still be detonation free with the less expensive fuel.

and if you were to switch to E85, bump the compression about 1 1/2 points, add even more timing, and you can gain power along with fuel economy.
Have you seen what Ethanol is doing to small engine carburators?

If ethanol is so great, why is it not used in aviation fuel?
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Resigning???

Oh, ok, I guess not.

Honestly, I hope not... We'd end up with Mr. Joe foot-in-his-mouth Biden, and I'm positive that'd be worse, way worse.
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