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His base isn't smart enough to know how abysmal he's been. They still defend him. There's no figuring it out. They're like sick children who don't yet realize how bad candy is for them. He looks good and sounds good. That's good enough for them.
His base isn't smart enough to know how abysmal he's been. They still defend him. There's no figuring it out. They're like sick children who don't yet realize how bad candy is for them. He looks good and sounds good. That's good enough for them.
It might surprise you to know that many of his supporters aren't that thrilled with him. I surely am not. However, he's got no friends in Congress, and that isn't helping.
Should be interesting, but uneventful. When cornered, her response of "What difference does it make?" will end the discussion, no matter what the subject matter is.
And why do you introduce the President's color into this? Too bad Hillary isn't black. You'd have a double dose of overjoy.
Like, really, what difference DOES it make that Obama is half black/half white. I really thought he had something solid to offer.
the difference is the radical, reactionary response by the Republican party! the election of our first 'black' president has sent many of the right off the proverbial cliff.
next question...
although I must say, you all reacted badly to Bill Clinton's election as well, but the Obama response has been even more malevolent!
What I am saying (like 2012), is that liberals will vote again for another liberal, despite 8 years of economic misery and failure. I have no doubt at all about it. Another liberal may very well win the 2016 election as a result (likely). I am not debating whether libs will win the 2016 election. Given the idiocy of the electorate, it is likely that they will.
And I pointed out that it does not matter what the liberals do. It matters what the political center does. You guys are not consigned to the political desert because liberals (or conservatives) vote dogmatically. And accusing the center of voting dogmatically is a dog that has never hunted except in the whining and hand-wringing self flagellation of the losers.
Another liberal will likely win the the 2016 election not "despite 8 years of economic misery and failure" but because the political center has a more subtle perspective than you do. They are not magical thinkers and understand that perfect is the enemy of good. They will choose what they believe is better, not what they fantasize would be best. And while they might consider the left to be naive, they at the same time grow more and more convinced that the right is insane.
Given that set of options, you will have to content yourself with possibly holding onto the House. The 2010 gerrymander is all that is saving you.
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What I cannot understand is how people would be so dense as to keep putting politicians into office that inflict a lower standard of living upon the populace. Do libs and dems just love economic misery?
What leads you to hallucinate that "inflict(ing) a lower standard of living upon the populace" has ever correlated with exclusively with liberal policies or presidencies? Perhaps you need to pick up a history book. Or two. Or least learn how to google outside the echo chamber.
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Conservatives will not adopt the insane, failed policies of liberals, just to get elected.
Obama's presidency has been one of abject failure and economic misery, scarred by scandal. The only jobs the admin has "created" are part time jobs. Incomes, savings, and standard of living has fallen during the Obama administration, and we have three more years of this downtrend to endure.
2016- How are the libs going to promote four more years of liberal "rule" after this debacle? Will Americans be dumb enough to vote for another liberal and doom the nation to four more years of economic misery? Has the electorate become conditioned, via government treats for votes programs, to simply vote democrat, regardless of performance and personal voter economic misery?
Libs- If liberal policy is so great, why do we have greater numbers of unemployed (or underemployed), lower incomes, lower savings, and more people on food stamps? The only people that appear to have prospered under Obama is the "1%ers"- oddly the people that Obama purports to hate.
You're not actually asking a question, you're stating personal political opinions.
And I pointed out that it does not matter what the liberals do. It matters what the political center does. You guys are not consigned to the political desert because liberals (or conservatives) vote dogmatically. And accusing the center of voting dogmatically is a dog that has never hunted except in the whining and hand-wringing self flagellation of the losers.
Another liberal will likely win the the 2016 election not "despite 8 years of economic misery and failure" but because the political center has a more subtle perspective than you do. They are not magical thinkers and understand that perfect is the enemy of good. They will choose what they believe is better, not what they fantasize would be best. And while they might consider the left to be naive, they at the same time grow more and more convinced that the right is insane.
Given that set of options, you will have to content yourself with possibly holding onto the House. The 2010 gerrymander is all that is saving you.
What leads you to hallucinate that "inflict(ing) a lower standard of living upon the populace" has ever correlated with exclusively with liberal policies or presidencies? Perhaps you need to pick up a history book. Or two. Or least learn how to google outside the echo chamber.
Good. We all make our choices.
"We all make our choices". Of course we do; however, many make bad choices.
Are you actually suggesting that Obama has been an accomplished and successful president?
Do you deny that wages have decreased?
Do you deny that net wealth (for everyone except the 1%) has declined?
Do you deny that there are record numbers of unemployed?
Do you deny that there are record numbers of citizens on food stamps?
Do you deny that there are record numbers of citizens on social security disability?
Do you deny that the standard of living has declined under Obama?
Do you deny that most of the jobs created under Obama are low paying, part time jobs?
Do you deny that Obama has presided over the greatest increase (not percentage, but actual dollar) in debt in US history?
Do you deny that Obama has presided over the largest annual deficits in US history?
Now how in the world could any RATIONAL citizen support and vote for another liberal candidate, who will deliver four more years of the same misery? It defies logic. However, vacating logic and rationalism is what we expect of liberals. Therefore, you and most likely the balance of the nation will install another liberal president, thus dooming the nation to more despair.
The country has a majority of uninformed, programmed, ignorant (pick the shoe that fits) a socialist leaning population. They look to see which side their bread is buttered and vote accordingly.
Wheeee, keep it up! I can assure you that's definitely the problem here. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the GOP's position on gay marriage, abortion, equal pay for women, civil rights, voter rights or immigration reform. None whatsoever!
Wheeee, keep it up! I can assure you that's definitely the problem here. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the GOP's position on gay marriage, abortion, equal pay for women, civil rights, voter rights or immigration reform. None whatsoever!
( 2014, here we come ... )
Eh, 2014 is gonna be rough for the Dems. They'll probably lose seats in the Senate and the House. There are a number of factors working against them, and it's going to be ugly. Maybe not as ugly as 2010 since there's less overall to lose, but ugly it will be.
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