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"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 17 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,543 posts, read 16,528,077 times
Reputation: 6029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier
Liberals define themselves - Harrier only reports their definitions.
It is not Harrier's fault that liberals portray themselves negatively.
I dont live inside your head, so i cant even presume to say you are lying because you may honestly see the world that way, But from others perspective you are wrong.
Liberals do not portray themselves negatively. Negativity is in the eye of the beholder.
You may think supporting the civil rights act is a negative, but a liberal that supports it does not, so that person isnt portraying themselves negatively. That is your own construct, not theirs. So you are indeed defining others.
You may think supporting the civil rights act is a negative, but a liberal that supports it does not, so that person isnt portraying themselves negatively.
Democrats, who now call themselves either liberals or "progressives", since "liberal" has been rightfully maligned, opposed the Civil Rights Act and also opposed the abolition of slavery.
Harrier is sorry if you can't wrap your head around those facts.
Liberals also try to call themselves "progressives" now, because "liberal" has become tainted.
Those same people forget that the original Progressives were Republican and instituted good things like allowing women to vote(which Democrats opposed), setting aside National Parks, opposing Jim Crow Laws(which Democrats supported), and starting the FDA.
Democrats, who now call themselves either liberals or "progressives", since "liberal" has been rightfully maligned, opposed the Civil Rights Act and also opposed the abolition of slavery.
Harrier is sorry if you can't wrap your head around those facts.
Liberals also try to call themselves "progressives" now, because "liberal" has become tainted.
Those same people forget that the original Progressives were Republican and instituted good things like allowing women to vote(which Democrats opposed), setting aside National Parks, opposing Jim Crow Laws(which Democrats supported), and starting the FDA.
So now your praising progressives and slamming conservative Democrats???
Status:
"everybody getting reported now.."
(set 17 days ago)
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,543 posts, read 16,528,077 times
Reputation: 6029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier
Democrats, who now call themselves either liberals or "progressives", since "liberal" has been rightfully maligned, opposed the Civil Rights Act and also opposed the abolition of slavery.
Harrier is sorry if you can't wrap your head around those facts.
Liberals also try to call themselves "progressives" now, because "liberal" has become tainted.
Those same people forget that the original Progressives were Republican and instituted good things like allowing women to vote(which Democrats opposed), setting aside National Parks, opposing Jim Crow Laws(which Democrats supported), and starting the FDA.
In the bold, you seem to be repeating yourself no matter how wrong you are. It is republicans who have called the word liberal into question, not liberals. My response to you is this simple for that.
Liberals also did not oppose any of the things you claimed. You are confusing Democrats with liberal when they are not one in the same, or atleast they were not when those things in question were passed.
I know you cant wrap your head around those facts, but you are just going to have to.
You ran Liberals and Progressives out of your party. In the South where those things like Jim Crow were suported , Both Democrats and Republicans formed a coalition in support of them, Thankfully Democrats were a majority in the North and eradicated them.
Democrats and Liberals passed the civil rights act, we have gone thought this argument before, I have even posed the vote count. You either have short term memory or you honestly dont care that you are wrong.
Democrats, who now call themselves either liberals or "progressives", since "liberal" has been rightfully maligned, opposed the Civil Rights Act and also opposed the abolition of slavery.
Harrier is sorry if you can't wrap your head around those facts.
Liberals also try to call themselves "progressives" now, because "liberal" has become tainted.
Those same people forget that the original Progressives were Republican and instituted good things like allowing women to vote(which Democrats opposed), setting aside National Parks, opposing Jim Crow Laws(which Democrats supported), and starting the FDA.
Progressives WERE Republicans is the key word. We progressives go with the party that fits us the best and the Republicans have failed at doing that for a long time now.
Not really sure what your point is here. Are you claiming Robert Byrd is a liberal ? Because he is not ?
Did i ever claim he was perfect ? No, i did not even mention him in this entire debate but last time i checked, he admitted his bigoted ways were wrong and worked to mend his image did he not ?
Not really sure what your point is here. Are you claiming Robert Byrd is a liberal ? Because he is not ?
Did i ever claim he was perfect ? No, i did not even mention him in this entire debate but last time i checked, he admitted his bigoted ways were wrong and worked to mend his image did he not ?
long story short, #YouFail
He's trying to say that the KKK is liberal, because Byrd was in the KKK and Byrd was a Democrat.
Not really sure what your point is here. Are you claiming Robert Byrd is a liberal ? Because he is not ?
Did i ever claim he was perfect ? No, i did not even mention him in this entire debate but last time i checked, he admitted his bigoted ways were wrong and worked to mend his image did he not ?
long story short, #YouFail
You'll have to tell me how this "failure" thing works, since you're so familiar with it.
Yep, he was a conservative Democrat from West Virginia that supported the KKK. Is there a point you are trying to make?
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