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Old 08-11-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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No...I understand that you didn't. I'm just saying that you have to be hip to the game that's being played here.

They can LOVE their demagogues, but demand that we denounce all the black ones. It's horseshyt. I'm not about to denounce or disavow anyone. If they don't like Sharpton, that's their problem.

But we have no duty as black people to reassure them that we don't like Sharpton or Jackson...it ain't their damn business anyway who individual blacks like or don't like. And I reject the notion that they're in some self exalted position of being our inquisitors or rightful judges of who we should either follow or even like.

Don't play into their hands.
The way I see it, people who complain about Al Sharpton are under no moral condition to do so if they are listening to the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity. They have no room to complain. It's utter hypocrisy on so many levels.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:07 PM
 
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Obviously there is no obligation on anyone to speak out or denounce anyone, regardless of race, gender, or whatever. Freedom of speech includes the freedom to remain silent, after all. I'm not sure that there is anyone claiming that there is a such an obligation, or demanding that certain people issue denunciations.

But if you believe that Sharpton is a demagogue, race-baiter, and damaging influence, as (for example) Juan Williams believes, it is certainly not a bad idea to speak up about it.
This is the thing. It makes no sense to complain about Al Sharpton if one won't call out the likes of Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck. It makes no sense.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This is the thing. It makes no sense to complain about Al Sharpton if one won't call out the likes of Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck. It makes no sense.
Why? I don't listen to nor pay attention to Glenn Beck, so why would I be required to "call him out?" I like a lot of what Ann Coulter says, so I probably wouldn't be calling her out in any case. These are all individuals with individual histories.

I don't see why registering a complaint about any one of them would mean that the complaining person should be required to complain about all.
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:09 PM
 
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The way I see it, people who complain about Al Sharpton are under no moral condition to do so if they are listening to the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity. They have no room to complain. It's utter hypocrisy on so many levels.
Absolutely. But in their minds, they aren't required to do any denunciations...but we are.

That's why no matter how I might feel about Jackson or Sharpton, there aren't gonna be any repudiating going on.

I'll repudiate certain opinions they have that I disagree with, but that's all.
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Why? I don't listen to nor pay attention to Glenn Beck, so why would I be required to "call him out?" I like a lot of what Ann Coulter says, so I probably wouldn't be calling her out in any case. These are all individuals with individual histories.

I don't see why registering a complaint about any one of them would mean that the complaining person should be required to complain about all.
If you are going to listen to Ann Coulter, then you can't expect anyone to denounce Al Sharpton. I see her as pretty much a demagogue. For that reason, I see big hypocrisies taking place. If Black people is expected to repudiate Al Sharpton, then how come the same isn't expected when it comes to these far-right persons?
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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Absolutely. But in their minds, they aren't required to do any denunciations...but we are.

That's why no matter how I might feel about Jackson or Sharpton, there aren't gonna be any repudiating going on.

I'll repudiate certain opinions they have that I disagree with, but that's all.
It is about double standards. I haven't really listened to either side, Sharpton or Coulter(and the like), I do my own thing. I just feel like alot of people are pointing to Al Sharpton as if he's "Black America's King".
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I see his show on MSNBC when I get home early from work sometimes.

The man has a great sense of humor. Give him that. I like him. If I was black, I'd probably really like him.
LMAO the beauty of subtle racism.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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This is the thing. It makes no sense to complain about Al Sharpton if one won't call out the likes of Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck. It makes no sense.
Nonsense, although I like 0 of 3, only Sharpton has to answer for Freddy's Fashion Mart.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I would like to hear from someone who thinks Al Sharpton has done great things. If so, what has he done to earn your praise?
Anyone that's a ranting, raving racist would support ole AL. I think his barber died about 10 years ago though.......
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:23 PM
 
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Nonsense, although I like 0 of 3, only Sharpton has to answer for Freddy's Fashion Mart.
What is Freddy's Fashion Mart, and what does that have to do with anything I said?
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