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Old 08-09-2013, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Obamacare installs new fines for charitable hospitals | The Daily Caller

Well this is one way of forcing Obamacare down everyone's throat. I can't wait for the rest of the goodies to come out.

Yet more reality verses fantasy

Obama Says Insurance Will Be 'Significantly Cheaper' Under Obamacare, But That Isn't True | The Weekly Standard

This monstrosity needs stopped now.
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:31 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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It's the law. It isn't going anywhere. Even the Republicans are talking about protecting the ACA's provisions regarding Guaranteed Issue, now, even though they're doing it in a childish effort to deprive poor people of affordable health care. It's pitiful to watch the RWNJs in Congress contort themselves around the realities they don't like, all the while trying to deny that they know that ACA is a step in the right direction, morally, even though it means a some people won't be able to afford that third HDTV or that extra vacation in Florida. Gosh what a quandary the RWNJs in Congress have: How to throw poor people out to "die in the streets" without it being so apparent that they're being selfish greed-mongers?
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well I guess that's one way to mandate health insurance on people.
What..should hospitals turn away anyone uninsured now ?

Taking health CARE to a new low here.

Citizens without insurance turned away.
Illegal aliens without insurance..welcome.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Someday soon It will also be illegal to pay cash for your medical services.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Someday soon It will also be illegal to pay cash for your medical services.
Yeah, they haven't addressed that one yet.
30% discount for cash with some doctors.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:37 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Yeah, they haven't addressed that one yet.
30% discount for cash with some doctors.
No cash and no charities makes the ACA the supreme law of the land.

There will be an even larger outflow of people to other countries for Medical services.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No cash and no charities makes the ACA the supreme law of the land.

There will be an even larger outflow of people to other countries for Medical services.
There's a rise in concierge medicine. Pay about $2K and you have access to your doctor, just like the old days. And doctors can reduce their patient load.

I've been reading up on it. A few posters have it over in the retirement forum and have been posting about it. You get in to see your doctor quicker and not rushed plus additional benefits.

That might be the way to go for those that can afford the "membership".

Just wait as this catches on. You'll hear the cries of "It's not fair".


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...lth&id=9092213
Last fall, Dr. Lazowick told Wolf he was joining MDVIP.
It significantly reduces the number of patients doctors have - often reducing their practice to 500 to 600 from the previous 1,500 to 2,000.
But it allows for longer appointments, better access and a wellness program which includes a 90-minute initial appointment.
To continue in the doctors' practice, it costs $1,650 per person per year - out of pocket.
Wolf says he didn't want to change doctors, didn't mind the fee and is happy with the new model.
"I feel I get more sincere attention," Wolf said.
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Old 08-10-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yeah, they haven't addressed that one yet.
30% discount for cash with some doctors.


30% ?

It is more than that.
My insurance denied any coverage when my mother in laws dog bit my daughter.
They had a $6000 emergency room bill.
I went to the hospital in the little town of 5000 people and they told me to pay $258 and were were settled.
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Old 08-10-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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30% ?

It is more than that.
My insurance denied any coverage when my mother in laws dog bit my daughter.
They had a $6000 emergency room bill.
I went to the hospital in the little town of 5000 people and they told me to pay $258 and were were settled.
I don't know about hospital. This was just a regular doctor visit.
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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It's the law. It isn't going anywhere. Even the Republicans are talking about protecting the ACA's provisions regarding Guaranteed Issue, now, even though they're doing it in a childish effort to deprive poor people of affordable health care. It's pitiful to watch the RWNJs in Congress contort themselves around the realities they don't like, all the while trying to deny that they know that ACA is a step in the right direction, morally, even though it means a some people won't be able to afford that third HDTV or that extra vacation in Florida. Gosh what a quandary the RWNJs in Congress have: How to throw poor people out to "die in the streets" without it being so apparent that they're being selfish greed-mongers?
You believe everything you are told don't you?
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