Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Is it time to repeal the Patriot Act
Yes repeal it 71 85.54%
No let it stand 12 14.46%
Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-12-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
15,896 posts, read 11,988,465 times
Reputation: 7502

Advertisements

Long over due to get rid of it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-12-2013, 12:25 PM
 
1,169 posts, read 1,519,540 times
Reputation: 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liquid Sword View Post
Why would those in power willingly give up some power? There's your answer.
Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2013, 07:19 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
16,880 posts, read 15,198,564 times
Reputation: 5240
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
We have seen our country turn into a police state since 9/11 with the laws which circumvent the Constitutions Bill of Rights.
You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than to die in a terrorist attack, and yet we have these draconian laws which lower our standard of living, nullify our rights, and are creating a police state.

yes and hell yes. not only is it time to repeal the PatAct 1&2, it is also time to repeal the TSA and the NDAA.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2013, 07:26 PM
 
7,492 posts, read 11,829,224 times
Reputation: 7394
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
We have seen our country turn into a police state since 9/11 with the laws which circumvent the Constitutions Bill of Rights.
You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than to die in a terrorist attack, and yet we have these draconian laws which lower our standard of living, nullify our rights, and are creating a police state.
There is so much going on that we need to be wary of, terrorist organizations connecting with American and foreign gangs with connections in America. This is all a very serious threat. That doesn't mean I agree with the excess surveillance though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
Why don't we start with ending our policy of policing the world so there will no longer be any perceived need for the Patriot Act?
Yeah but I don't think the countries in Africa and south Asia that have been infiltrated with Muslim extremists stuck their noses in their business. Extremists want to conquer the world and would have eventually started on us, American interference or not.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
6,795 posts, read 7,288,689 times
Reputation: 5194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osito View Post
There is so much going on that we need to be wary of, terrorist organizations connecting with American and foreign gangs with connections in America. This is all a very serious threat. That doesn't mean I agree with the excess surveillance though.



Yeah but I don't think the countries in Africa and south Asia that have been infiltrated with Muslim extremists stuck their noses in their business. Extremists want to conquer the world and would have eventually started on us, American interference or not.
For the most part what we have are people fighting back from decades of interference in their own countries by the US and other in attempt to steal their resources. The US government creates the problems which it then in turn justifies suspending Constitutional rights to deal with.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
41,479 posts, read 59,783,759 times
Reputation: 24863
It should have never been passed. It only enhances corporate and government power and control at the expense of the rest of us.

As always, concerning our corporotocracy, the question is, "Who guards the guardians?".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2013, 11:56 AM
 
9,408 posts, read 11,932,122 times
Reputation: 12440
Just change it so it only applies to the politicians who have in the past, and those who currently do, support it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2013, 01:14 PM
 
3,040 posts, read 2,579,057 times
Reputation: 665
Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
Why don't we start with ending our policy of policing the world so there will no longer be any perceived need for the Patriot Act?
Exactly.
The NDAA can go too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-13-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: North America
19,784 posts, read 15,111,393 times
Reputation: 8527
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimhcom View Post
We have seen our country turn into a police state since 9/11 with the laws which circumvent the Constitutions Bill of Rights.
You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than to die in a terrorist attack, and yet we have these draconian laws which lower our standard of living, nullify our rights, and are creating a police state.

that dog should have never been passed to begin with. The NSA flap is a natural progression of a bad law.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-15-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
6,795 posts, read 7,288,689 times
Reputation: 5194
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osito View Post
There is so much going on that we need to be wary of, terrorist organizations connecting with American and foreign gangs with connections in America. This is all a very serious threat. That doesn't mean I agree with the excess surveillance though.
.
I have never been harmed at all by any of the groups you mentioned, I have however been made a victim of the tyranny of my own government.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:51 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top