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Because unlike toddlers most adults understand that you don't always get things exactly the way you want. Where does this kind of insanity end? If one person decides that no state in the union is ideologically pure enough, should a new state be formed just for them?
What about the option of just moving to a state that most closely mirrors your political beliefs?
Hardcore right wingers are such whiny brats. They lose a few elections and instead of trying to become more popular to the electorate, they propose to further isolate themselves into smaller and smaller groups of people purged of any impure thoughts.
So just give up and accept the way things are? Thank god the founders did not have men like in you their ranks.
Where does your kind of insanity end? giving more and more party to more and more removed centers of government.
"What about the option of just moving to a state that most closely mirrors your political beliefs?"
That is what Colorado was one, it was a Constitutional/Libertarian leaning Conservative state then over the last 10 to 15 years, massive out of state immigration(mostly from liberal states like California, Illinois, ect) has caused a massive shift, from a Constitutional/Libertarian leaning Conservative state government, to what the have now, Statist, higher taxes, more guns laws, more red tape, bigger government, now are you telling me that the this is just a coincidence of timing?
And is not just Colorado, its Nevada, and Texas, And Florida, other once great states, now experiencing the reverse free state effect IE massive amounts of out of state voters who have massively difference political ideologies which then vote for the same politicians/policies that made them leave their original states, like higher taxes, pro illegal immigration initiatives, restricting gun rights, opposing school vouchers. ect
Why should we have to move, we are great where we are, how you guys stay were you are...
"Hardcore right wingers are such whiny brats. They lose a few elections and instead of trying to become more popular to the electorate"
Were whiny brats? how? because we don't like something and we take action? What happens when *******s don't get their way? they sue, or pass some law, or when they lose at the polls they go threw the courts...so yeah...
How can we become popular? How is it popular to say "no you can not get free stuff"? or "no you cant have this or that"? factor that and most of the media at is biased against us...I am only 22 and I have learn this since I was 8, you dont become popular telling the truth...ever...
LOL, Liberty Amendments. I think that you might be taking your right wing talk radio just a little bit too seriously.
Why does the right wing always threaten violence if the world doesn't give them exactly what they want?
I also find it ironic that the same type of people that claim to support the US Constitution are completely unwilling to attempt to deal with these disputes in the manner laid out in that document. If you want different laws or people to represent your state, you make your case and win elections. There is no provision in the US Constitution for the losing side to take their ball to a new state and play the game over again.
Ok make the case on why they would not work, and why we should not try, clearly things are not working as they were meant to.
We are not threatening anything, when has political differences, or differences in general not leading to violence and warfare? I will wait, and if anything the left wing is far more violent then we are ...
Assassinations
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Abraham Lincoln ----> John Wilkes Booth (Democrat)
James A. Garfield ----> Charles J. Guiteau (Insane)
William McKinley ----> Leon Czolgosz (Left-Wing)
John F. Kennedy ----> Lee Harvey Oswald (Left-Wing)
Robert Kennedy (Sen) ----> Sirhan Sirhan (Left-Wing)
Leo Ryan (Repr) ----> Jim Jones & People's Temple (Insane, Left-Wing)
Cornelius Springer Hamilton ----> Hamilton (Insane)
James Hinds (Repr) ----> George A. Clark (Democrat)
John Pinckney (Repr) ----> Unidentified Lawyer (Democrat)
Huey Long (Sen) ----> Dr. Carl Adam Weiss (Unknown)
Dr. Martin Luther King ----> James Earl Ray (Democrat)
Malcom X ----> Talmadge Hayer (Left-Wing)
Attempts
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Andrew Jackson ----> Richard Lawrence (Insane)
Theodore Roosevelt ----> John F. Schrank (Insane)
Franklin D. Roosevelt ----> Giuseppe Zangara (Left-Wing, Insane)
Harry S Truman ----> Collazo & Torresola (Left-Wing)
John F. Kennedy ----> Richard Paul Pavlick (Insane)
Richard M. Nixon ----> Arthur Bremer (Insane)
Richard M. Nixon ----> Samuel Byck (Left-Wing)
Gerald R. Ford ----> Lynette Fromme (Left-Wing, Insane)
Gerald R. Ford ----> Sara Jane Moore (Left-Wing)
James E. Carter ----> Raymond Lee Harvey (Insane)
Ronald Reagan ----> John Hinckley, Jr. (Insane)
Bill Clinton ----> Francisco Martin Duran (Insane)
George W. Bush ----> Vladimir Arutyunian (Left-Wing)
Gabrielle Giffords (Repr) ----> Jared Lee Loughner (Insane)
Alvin M. Bentley (Repr) ----> 4 Puerto Rican nationalists (Left-Wing)
Clifford Davis (Repr) ----> 4 Puerto Rican nationalists (Left-Wing)
Ben F. Jensen (Repr) ----> 4 Puerto Rican nationalists (Left-Wing)
George Hyde Fallon (Repr) ----> 4 Puerto Rican nationalists (Left-Wing)
Kenneth Roberts (Repr) ----> 4 Puerto Rican nationalists (Left-Wing)
George Wallace ----> Herman Bremer (Left-Wing)
So yeah...
" If you want different laws or people to represent your state, you make your case and win elections."
What if they have rigged the system so heavily in their favor you cant win? lets just play this game, what if you can never win because the other side has stacked the deck in their favor...
So just give up and accept the way things are? Thank god the founders did not have men like in you their ranks.
Where does your kind of insanity end? giving more and more party to more and more removed centers of government.
"What about the option of just moving to a state that most closely mirrors your political beliefs?"
That is what Colorado was one, it was a Constitutional/Libertarian leaning Conservative state then over the last 10 to 15 years, massive out of state immigration(mostly from liberal states like California, Illinois, ect) has caused a massive shift, from a Constitutional/Libertarian leaning Conservative state government, to what the have now, Statist, higher taxes, more guns laws, more red tape, bigger government, now are you telling me that the this is just a coincidence of timing?
And is not just Colorado, its Nevada, and Texas, And Florida, other once great states, now experiencing the reverse free state effect IE massive amounts of out of state voters who have massively difference political ideologies which then vote for the same politicians/policies that made them leave their original states, like higher taxes, pro illegal immigration initiatives, restricting gun rights, opposing school vouchers. ect
Why should we have to move, we are great where we are, how you guys stay were you are...
"Hardcore right wingers are such whiny brats. They lose a few elections and instead of trying to become more popular to the electorate"
Were whiny brats? how? because we don't like something and we take action? What happens when *******s don't get their way? they sue, or pass some law, or when they lose at the polls they go threw the courts...so yeah...
How can we become popular? How is it popular to say "no you can not get free stuff"? or "no you cant have this or that"? factor that and most of the media at is biased against us...I am only 22 and I have learn this since I was 8, you dont become popular telling the truth...ever...
So your main complaint is that your personal political beliefs are becoming less and less popular?
Let's say that a new right wing Colorado II is formed, what happens if too many people from other states move there and mess up your far right utopia again? Do you throw another fit and form Colorado III, repeated ad nauseum?
What you are advocating is a form of right wing despotism. If everytime the voters show their displeasure at the right wing agenda during elections the reaction is to form a new right wing state, that is no longer democracy much less the form of government laid out in the US Constitution.
not if they have a fair tax, or have cooperate sponsored schools..plus Northern Colorado has more oil, oil shale and Natural Gas then Saudi Arabia...
Do those sponsorships also get to right the school agenda? Talk about willing to sell your soul to the highest bidder.
Also, there are these things called elections, and you can't tell me that Colorado doesn't have a state congress that represents all of the state, even North Colorado.
Meh.
If Idaho, a state that is naturally divided by mountains, and has two entirely different cultures within it's boundaries, can't do it, Colorado sure can't.
Northern Idaho has tried, off and on, to secede from the southern half for 100 years now, and it fizzles out every time. The obstacles to secession are simply too great, and all our states are too interconnected now to ever have a part of any state splitting off.
The Congress has to approve any secession. A seceded part of a state has to lose it's statehood first and become a territory, then has to petition Congress to join the union. The chances of success for such a petition, due to one party's losses to the other, is zero. Won't ever happen.
If by some stroke of insanity it was to happen, N. Colorado would become permanently impoverished. It would become so poor as to make Appalachia look impossibly wealthy in comparison. Those who had wealth would flee to S. Colorado, leaving only the folks who couldn't escape left.
Building a state with no strong and diverse economic base is impossible now. This ain't 1890 anymore.
All this is just more conservative duncery in motion. Eventually the conservatives will regain their sanity and abstain for indulging in their meth fueled fantasies, and we can all have a good laugh about the nonsense of the past.
So your main complaint is that your personal political beliefs are becoming less and less popular?
Let's say that a new right wing Colorado II is formed, what happens if too many people from other states move there and mess up your far right utopia again? Do you throw another fit and form Colorado III, repeated ad nauseum?
What you are advocating is a form of right wing despotism. If everytime the voters show their displeasure at the right wing agenda during elections the reaction is to form a new right wing state, that is no longer democracy much less the form of government laid out in the US Constitution.
I would not less popular, smaller government and the ideas the follow at making a massive comeback...liberalism on the other hand only 20 to 22 percent of Americans would label themselves as liberal, that number has dropped greatly over the last 10 years...
We would prevent this, here a few methods, no motor voter laws, part time state legislators, governor has line item vote power, with out a full time state legislator it is very hard(all be it not impossible) to use and abuse the power of the state..
We don't have a Democracy, we never did, we had a Constitutional republic, now we have a statist oligarchy 535 members of congress, 9 members of the Supreme court, and the president of the united states, each day concentrating more and more power of the free people of the United States.
Do those sponsorships also get to right the school agenda? Talk about willing to sell your soul to the highest bidder.
Also, there are these things called elections, and you can't tell me that Colorado doesn't have a state congress that represents all of the state, even North Colorado.
I think you mean write, and as schools dont have "agendas" now? at least it would have an "agenda" based on learning not social engineering English, writing,chemistry,math( at minimum trigonometry and physics) US history, Civics (a full year at minimum on the Bill Of Rights, The Constitution, and the role of government)
PE were you have fun, and developed the winning mentality( like kick ball, dodge-ball ball, maybe paint ball..ect)
Selling your soul? so its ok to send kids into failed school all in the name of keep the teacher unions alive? I mean kids are blasted with ads, have you watch one hour of nickelodeon? or cartoon network?
Meh.
If Idaho, a state that is naturally divided by mountains, and has two entirely different cultures within it's boundaries, can't do it, Colorado sure can't.
Northern Idaho has tried, off and on, to secede from the southern half for 100 years now, and it fizzles out every time. The obstacles to secession are simply too great, and all our states are too interconnected now to ever have a part of any state splitting off.
The Congress has to approve any secession. A seceded part of a state has to lose it's statehood first and become a territory, then has to petition Congress to join the union. The chances of success for such a petition, due to one party's losses to the other, is zero. Won't ever happen.
If by some stroke of insanity it was to happen, N. Colorado would become permanently impoverished. It would become so poor as to make Appalachia look impossibly wealthy in comparison. Those who had wealth would flee to S. Colorado, leaving only the folks who couldn't escape left.
Building a state with no strong and diverse economic base is impossible now. This ain't 1890 anymore.
All this is just more conservative duncery in motion. Eventually the conservatives will regain their sanity and abstain for indulging in their meth fueled fantasies, and we can all have a good laugh about the nonsense of the past.
You over look the fact that N. Colorado has massive deposits of oil and Natural gas, gold ore, rare earth minerals, that and legitimized gambling would be really be a shot in the arm....
Notice that who ever choices to think,act and do anything that is out of the mean-stream they are nuts?...funny how they are always the right ones in the end..
If the rural part of the state wishes to have their issues addressed, then they should elect state Representatives that do a better job of representing them in their state legislation.
and what if urban area have more representatives? so many that the rural areas can have their issues addressed?
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