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Old 08-18-2013, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
Here is your homework assignment.

Below is the Utah State Constitution.

Take your time, peruse it, and when you find the section that says that the state is run by a church, post it here for all to see.

Good luck.

Utah Code -- Constitution -- Utah Constitution
There's nothing wrong with saying that the majority of state legislators in Utah are devout Mormons that govern based on their values.

 
Old 08-18-2013, 01:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lvoc View Post
The article I posted makes it clear that the legislature is dominated by Mormons due to their beliefs but that certain issues actually require church direction.

If you don't think the LDS dominates the legislature in Utah you have to believe in the tooth fairy.

And Mormons will dominate the government and control it anywhere they are a large plurality. See Boulder City NV.
Uh...so what?

Replace the Mormons in your post with anything else and it would be the same. It's called democracy in case you haven't heard of it before. Whoever is in the majority dominates the local government, and their views are the ones that get enacted into law. And if they pass laws that violate the rights of the minority then those laws will be struck down by higher courts.

And I bet if someone did post the same thing you did but about black people, you'd be right there screaming racism.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 01:59 AM
 
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Uh...so what?

Replace the Mormons in your post with anything else and it would be the same. It's called democracy in case you haven't heard of it before. Whoever is in the majority dominates the local government, and their views are the ones that get enacted into law. And if they pass laws that violate the rights of the minority then those laws will be struck down by higher courts.

And I bet if someone did post the same thing you did but about black people, you'd be right there screaming racism.
Indeed, more than probable. And it'd be typical Liberal hypocrisy too.

Liberals despise religion; God is the higher authority unanswerable to their control-freakism. And hence their disgust and bigotry towards the devoutly faithful of Christianity, Judaism, and Mormonism in the U.S. The devoutly faithful are outside their orbit of control.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 02:28 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Utah obviously a place that has benefited tremendously from the end of the Dubya Dark Ages and thrived under President Obama's incredible leadership and smarts.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Utah obviously a place that has benefited tremendously from the end of the Dubya Dark Ages and thrived under President Obama's incredible leadership and smarts.
YES! Let's give credit where credit is due.

I love the place but a lot of people there, many of whom are very dear to me, they harbor a deep-seeded dislike of all Democrats, similar I suppose to how many folks here feel about Republicans.

Anyway, I greatly appreciate being born and raised a Mormon in the Bay Area-gave me an intimate glimpse into both sides.

We really are more similar than most think.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Naw - Harrier spent 2 hrs in Utah, and the only think he did was drink two pints of Wasatch Pale Ale.

There was a selection of hard liquor as well, but Harrier likes his brew.

Harrier kicked himself for not ordering the Polygamy Porter.
try Uintah hop notch. pretty damn good beer.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Better half of PA
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Again, I would rather have a couple tasty strong beers for a good price than to have a bunch of overpriced weak beer that does nothing but fill my bladder with water.
You're wrongly assuming Utah beers are low in alcohol. They aren't. Just the beers that are sold in grocery stores. At the brewery and at the state store the alcohol percentage can be whatever it is intended to be.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I think that it proves that traditional family values works. That and Mormons take care of their own. They don't need the government.

20yrsinBranson
Bingo.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You're wrongly assuming Utah beers are low in alcohol. They aren't. Just the beers that are sold in grocery stores. At the brewery and at the state store the alcohol percentage can be whatever it is intended to be.
Yep, and you have to pay much, much more for the better beer. I prefer having an aisle full of good beer with a higher alcohol content in my grocery store so I can enjoy a good strong beer at the day. It has actually been strange for me here in New Jersey where you have to go to a liquor store to buy your beer. Some of the alcohol laws in this country are just plain stupid.
 
Old 08-18-2013, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I think that it proves that traditional family values works. That and Mormons take care of their own. They don't need the government.

20yrsinBranson
The mormons also donate a percentage of their income to the church to help the less fortunate members of the church. ...socialism.
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