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Old 08-21-2013, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The mormons also donate a percentage of their income to the church to help the less fortunate members of the church. ...socialism.
Imagine if all organized religions of the world required their followers to donate 10% off the top and the overwhelming majority of them did so.

 
Old 08-21-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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are they forced to pay a tithe? does the tithe go to support their own, or does it go wherever an arbitrary third party chooses?
They are expected to do so and most followers do the tithe regardless of the hardships doing so may cause.

LDS and affiliates do not make their financial statements public.

Here is one example of how LDS money is spent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/re...anted=all&_r=0

From the link:

"But they’re an interesting landlord. They’re not worried about the next quarter. They have a much longer perspective than many other investors would have had. They want to know what the city will look like in the next 50 or 100 years.”

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Old 08-21-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You're right. Salt Lake City has had democratic mayors for the last 37 years. As a matter of fact, in the last national election, Romney obviously garnered a lot of support throughout Utah and beat Obama by a landslide here. In the prior election, though, Salt Lake City's residents voted for Obama over McCain.
Imagine that.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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In the poor house, silly.

About 13.5% of Utah's population lives in poverty

Utah Local News - Salt Lake City News, Sports, Archive - The Salt Lake Tribune
About par for the region. Better than CA and AZ worse than NV.

Again it appears the thesis of this thread is incorrect. Utah is run of the mill...not particularly successful.. It does well on things where the LDS is effective and does less well on things such as economic numbers where the LDS may be a disadvantage.

No indication that it leads some "success" list.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Interesting but I don't think even Dems could mess up Utah. Well assuming they leave the social crap alone. I wasn't getting at economics or even race but something that transcends these things.
Assuming Utah is successful at all, it may have a lot to do with having a low black population. Keeping in mind, for years, the Mormon religion did not accept blacks.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Assuming Utah is successful at all, it may have a lot to do with having a low black population. Keeping in mind, for years, the Mormon religion did not accept blacks.
Never fails to rear it's ugly head on these boards, oh well, people have to express their inner selves for all to see.
 
Old 08-21-2013, 04:26 PM
 
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Perhaps you should at least give a semblance or research before posting more of your lies.
Lies huh....uhmmm let's see...

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Students are not allowed to carry guns at school.
Oh really....

Utah only state to OK guns at college - US news - Life | NBC News

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The is a great deal of support for gays (look at the news once in a while).
Ok, then why does the church ex-communicate gays along with gay & civil unions still being banned on a constitutional level. I'll cut you some slack here though since a lot of other states also did the same.

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Beer is available at the grocery store and it is not the only state that only sells hard liquor at state sanctioned stores.
Utah State Liquor Laws | Utah.com

Yeah really really weak beer (less than 3.2%) in alcohol content and no wine. I never said anything about hard liquor. I was talking about beer and wine, where in most states people can get those items at grocery stores and other specialty stores. So a place like Total Wine that is all over country couldn't operate in Utah because of their backwards drinking laws.

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Statements such as your confirmed the jealous bigotry of some in other states. Of course, liberals like you could never misspeak now, could you (see your leader for evidence).
Jealous LOL of what???, Who is being a bigot, I'm just stating the facts. Again, if you want to live in a state like that go ahead. It is not for me again going back to the original topic. It may have a some good benefits, but the negative far out weighs the good. If you want to live don't let me stop you. Whatever floats your boat.

Fail.....
 
Old 08-22-2013, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Assuming Utah is successful at all, it may have a lot to do with having a low black population. Keeping in mind, for years, the Mormon religion did not accept blacks.
Actually, there has never been a time in the history of Mormonism when Blacks could not be members of the Church. There has never been a period of time when our congregations were segregated either. There was quite an extensive period of time, unfortunately, when Blacks could not hold the priesthood in the LDS Church. (Not that this has anything to do with the OP, but I always feel obliged to correct in accurate information. )
 
Old 08-23-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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This thread has gone so far off the original topic, there is no helping it.

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