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Old 11-26-2007, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Or call the ACLU.
They support the constitution for everyone, even Larry Craig.
Yeah - and NAMBLA also

 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, CA
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Yeah - and NAMBLA also
They support anyone whose civil rights are being violated... isn't that the purpose of a legal team, to defend the law without judgment or bias?
You might want to read this: American Civil Liberties Union : ACLU Statement on Defending Free Speech of Unpopular Organizations
 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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They support anyone whose civil rights are being violated... isn't that the purpose of a legal team, to defend the law without judgment or bias?
You might want to read this: American Civil Liberties Union : ACLU Statement on Defending Free Speech of Unpopular Organizations
Thank you - I am quite familiar with the ACLU - hence the reason I no longer support, financially or physically, their actions / agenda.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Earth
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How did I know that response was coming? I must be Karnac.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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How did I know that response was coming? I must be Karnac.
You ever work for the ACLU????
 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:53 PM
 
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This thread isn't about the ACLU. The ACLU pisses me off often, but they perform a valuable service by making sure that everyone stands a chance, whether or not you think they "deserve" it.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Sunshine N'Blue Skies
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Simple explanation! Merry Christmas was passed down thru the generations in the USA. We were taught push your chair in when you get up, close the door behind you or always hold the door for the person behind. Don't shout across a room. Say thank you, say please and your welcome. Merry Christmas was taught the same way which was out of respect for others.
It is simple, it started many years ago and now it is being challenged. It makes sense from both sides. Using common sense makes you understand how the phrase has been passed on for genrations to be used as respecting others. Who knew it would lead to all this hub bub.
I agree with what you are saying Bingo.......
Its the generations of Christmas that brings thoughts and fond memories back.
I looked recently at a black and white photo of a straggly Christmas tree with all the tinsel. It bought feelings back of our parents childhood, of the songs sung in church, of being an angel at the manger myself.
I know the history of the tree.........but that was way before all of us were here on the earth. From "our times on....it has been a family day, loved by all.
I know, no pagan ,in walking through the woods with my children, and finding the perfect tree. Singing along the way. Watching the wagon, bring the tree for baleing.
Nor is there pagan in now, walking with their children in that same spirit.
In New York yesterday, I missed hearing the Carols in the department store.
I missed hearing it by the ice rinks.
The only place Christmas was alive was at the Pizza Restaurant........and the one single man singing on the city bus.
I was glad for that man on the city bus. For what joy is not found in singing?
A big, huge, Thank You to that Caroler.
I don't like this change. I don't mind singing others holiday music.........but I want to hear mine too.
Its Christmas..........a time for joy and laughter, fun and festive, greetings to all.
Gosh, even the bus driver coming into the city had no CD's because now he has to be "so correct"
I really hope the local Mall has Christmas music, or I know of one that does.
As it has been through the ages, so it should still be.........
It is magic in the air, glistening lights, kids glowing eyes........
I love, love this season.........I so do.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I don't mind singing others holiday music.........but I want to hear mine too.
Its Christmas..........a time for joy and laughter, fun and festive, greetings to all.
Gosh, even the bus driver coming into the city had no CD's because now he has to be "so correct"
I really hope the local Mall has Christmas music, or I know of one that does.


Oh please.
They still play carols everywhere I go, ad naseum, I might add.
Play your carols at home if that's your desire. No one is stopping you. Get an MP3 player, take control of your own life.

Doesn't sound like you love the season, sounds like you want the Rockwell painting that never existed. Or to control the world around you.
You have the power to make your own holiday and reality, whatever that is. At the same time, others can be respected for their beliefs that may differ from yours.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I don't mind singing others holiday music.........but I want to hear mine too.
Its Christmas..........a time for joy and laughter, fun and festive, greetings to all.
Gosh, even the bus driver coming into the city had no CD's because now he has to be "so correct"
I really hope the local Mall has Christmas music, or I know of one that does.


Oh please.
They still play carols everywhere I go, ad naseum, I might add.
Play your carols at home if that's your desire. No one is stopping you. Get an MP3 player, take control of your own life.

Doesn't sound like you love the season, sounds like you want the Rockwell painting that never existed. Or to control the world around you.
You have the power to make your own holiday and reality, whatever that is. At the same time, others can be respected for their beliefs that may differ from yours.
When I lived in Asia, Christmas was indeed pretty nutty. All the decorations and commericalism had a frenzied side to them, because they were relatively alien to most folks, and involved traditions that the people had made up as they went along (Christmas Cakes, Kentucky Fried Chicken for the holiday feast, and all those slender Santas!) I especially remember one year in Tokyo when all the (previously unknown, at least to me) church bells in our area started pealing away like mad at about six o'clock in the evening on Christmas Day. Then I remembered that it had just passed midnight on Christmas eve back in North America...and darn if a light snowfall didn't start up just as I went out on our tiny balcony...

I always felt a tug of homesickness and remembered joy when I was abroad at Christmas.

Sorry it makes you unhappy.
 
Old 11-26-2007, 03:17 PM
 
Location: New York
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Oh please.
They still play carols everywhere I go, ad naseum, I might add.
When NY was mentioned, I almost spilled coffee all over my keyboard. NYC of all places! That is when I know the story was a fabrication.
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