Switzerland debates money for everyone - Unconditional Basic Income (suspect, 9/11, economy)

[Nodpete]

Kind of like our Welfare class here in the US.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

Do you believe its the governments job now to make sure everyone has a living?

Government? Government is just a representation of the people. Ultimately, especially in Switzerland, it will be the people approving or rejecting that idea in a referendum. The Swiss are not stupid, they know that the money will come from them one way or another. But maybe they will approve of that idea anyway, if they are convinced of its advantages and maybe even necessity (for instance age-related).

The Swiss are different from Americans as they are thinking and planning ahead, not just reacting.

[Hoonose]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

Do you believe its the governments job now to make sure everyone has a living?

Part of the Feds mandate is to help ensure or promote domestic employment.

After all, a major problem today in the USA is a lack of jobs.

In Europe it's much worse especially with younger workers.

[Workin_Hard]

Originally Posted by KUchief25

Good. Ship all the liberals to Switzerland and they can live in the utopia they so desire.

I would nominate somewhere between 43-47% of the current US population (depending on which surveys you believe) and at least 10M who speak with a South-of-the-Border accent.

As was said, "We're gonna need a bigger boat!"


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[CDusr]

Originally Posted by Woof

They're talking about $2700 per month per citizen without conditions. SWISS REVIEW - Basic income – better off without working?

If they can afford it, could we? Might it be cheaper than the current system?

Something like this makes more sense to me. It's the siphoning that is the issue.


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[FKD19124]

And you forgot the government is your master.

Originally Posted by Fiyero

Works for me. I'd love to live in Switzerland. Ultra wealthy, clean, safe, doesn't engage in war, universal healthcare, some of the highest quality of living on the planet, stunning natural environment, and easily accessible to the rest of Europe.

[Neuling]

Originally Posted by FKD19124

And you forgot the government is your master.

Just like in the US, plus you have additional masters, like your corporate masters...

[nicet4]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

The Swiss impose a wealth tax which includes equity in all properties owned. Such a tax is unconstitutional in the U.S.

The question begs how much would such a wealth tax bring in?

Average Billionaire Net Worth By Country: Full List - Forbes

As for the United States, its billionaires come in 16th in terms of average net worth, wedged between more recent upstarts Ireland and Brazil. America’s 442 billionaires, by far the most in the world, are worth more than $4.2 billion on average.

$4.2 billion * 442 = $1.86 trillion

$1.86 trillion / 314 million = $5,912.10 for every man, woman and child in the USA.

That would fund the $2,700 per month plan for two months and then what?

Yes, that sounds like that would solve all our problems doncha think

[Hot_Handz]

Hey that would work here!!....just make sure we get a stipend from all the war we profit from.

[CDusr]

Originally Posted by Neuling

Just like in the US, plus you have additional masters, like your corporate masters...

They are all corporate masters, just different corps. Municipal vs Transnationals.