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Old 08-19-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Why would anyone want to be a teacher in New York? A person who has two children and doesn’t work is better compensated than a person whose job requires a college degree plus continuing education and they take care of a heck of a lot more than just two children. We have a problem, and those screaming that we are paying our teachers too much aren't the ones who have figured out what it is.




http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.or...workversus.pdf
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:54 AM
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Location: Georgia
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Indeed, but you know that those blinded by right-wing avarice will whine about how generous TANF and SNAP are, rather than acknowledging the reality, that this proves that taxpayers are too greedy.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:04 AM
 
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Why would anyone want to be a teacher in New York? A person who has two children and doesn’t work is better compensated than a person whose job requires a college degree plus continuing education and they take care of a heck of a lot more than just two children. We have a problem, and those screaming that we are paying our teachers too much aren't the ones who have figured out what it is.
LOL, I get a kick out of how some find something that upsets them and then they try to blame some unnamed group for it.

So the problem is low pay for teachers, not subsidies that make it worth not getting a job?
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:21 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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From the Cato institute "report":

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We believe it is
proper to include
the full package
of benefits
because at least
some recipients
in every state do
receive them.
In other words, they creates a package of benefits including all benefits-- regardless that most families would not qualify for all benefits-- to create the false impression that the average recipient receives more than the average teacher. This is false and manipulative. If people had any critical thinking skills what-so-ever they'd see right through this sham.

#fail
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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From the Cato institute "report":



In other words, they creates a package of benefits including all benefits-- regardless that most families would not qualify for all benefits-- to create the false impression that the average recipient receives more than the average teacher. This is false and manipulative. If people had any critical thinking skills what-so-ever they'd see right through this sham.

#fail
Good point. Besides, why on Earth would anyone pay attention to an inherited Billionaire demonizing welfare, especially when that Billionaire also demonizes unions, teachers, social security and working class Americans in general.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:19 AM
 
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Indeed, but you know that those blinded by right-wing avarice will whine about how generous TANF and SNAP are, rather than acknowledging the reality, that this proves that taxpayers are too greedy.

Greedy? We're some of the most taxed people on the planet.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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This is quite a dilemma for the right. Who do they hate more: poor people or teachers?
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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This is quite a dilemma for the right. Who do they hate more: poor people or teachers?

Wanting to keep people's hands out of your pocket is hatred now?
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Montgomery Village
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Wanting to keep people's hands out of your pocket is hatred now?
I said hate MORE.
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Old 08-20-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Greedy? We're some of the most taxed people on the planet.
What is the tax rate on the average middle income New Yorker, is it 40%?
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