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Old 08-21-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Its been awhile since we've had a Israel hate thread. So go ahead and follow through with your statements with current information related to the Palestinians. But while you're thinking about what to type please also explain to us why Egypt has closed it gates to Gaza and Jordan allows extremely limited access to their country. Then you can explain to us why nearly every Arab country has cut off funding to them. Then you can explain to us why Jews who owned land in the Judea/Samaria (West Bank) previous to 1948 should not be allowed to settle back onto their lands. And when you get to camps, show us how in anyway they look like the concentration camps the Jews were kept in Germany. Then you can further explain to us, after all the Jews were removed from Gaza (including Sephardic Jews who lived there for 100s of years) in 2005 instead of starting to build an economy of their own with the Billions of dollars of investors waiting decided to fire off rockets at a farming town within TWO HOURS and have continued bombarding the same town until today. Please enlighten us.
Israel is clearly an apartheid state, and no amount of obfuscation will change the fact. The knesset, a number of years ago passed a law barring people with too little Jewish ancestry from migrating to Israel -- I believe the law now sates that somebody needs to be fully Jewish from at least one side of their family in order to be considered racially pure enough in order to become an Israeli citizen. And this is after the fact that Israel has been in the process of deporting Sudanese refugees and Ethiopian Falasha Jews from within its borders, simply for not being ethnically Ashkenazi or Sephardic. And what of the Ethiopians who have not been deported? The Israeli government has been giving them sterilization drugs, telling th Ethiopians that the drugs were actually birth control pills.

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Stop the hate -- stop supporting Israel!
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:01 AM
 
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To be honest, the only song of his I can identify off the top of my head is "Cat Scratch Fever."
Most of his stuff was over the top for the radio and he's more known for being a great guitar player.



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Old 08-22-2013, 01:32 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel is clearly .....
All this means nothing. Israel has an immigration policy like any other country. Its their country.

By your logic, a person born in Brazil to US born parents automatically should have the right of return to the US with automatic citizenship even though his parents no longer live in the US.

Why should illegals in Israel be treated any differently than illegals in the US. At least Israel takes the time to deport them. Egypt shoots them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/world/middleeast/15egypt.html?_r=0
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:59 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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quote=FloridaPirate355;31065972]Lol he obviously knows nothing about the situation in Israel . I would explain it, but it would fall on deaf ears, people don't want to listen, they already have their minds made up and just want to hate Israel blindly. Anti-Semitism, that's all it is.

And btw Israel is NOT an "apartheid" state. There are plenty of Arabs that live and work in Israel, some even in the government and public offices. The security wall is there to prevent rockets flying into Israel and killing children in schools and hospitials. Israel gave the West Bank and Gaza to the Palastinians as part of a peace treaty, apparently that wasn't good enough, because Hamas goal isn't peace with Israel, it's to destroy Israel.

People against Israel are just anti-semites plain and simple.[/quote]
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:01 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Epic fail, no ONE claimed the events in Syria and Egypt is linked to Israel or Israel's fault, stop pulling things out of your behind. Plus one does not make the other correct, Assad's being a murderer does not make Israel policies against the Palestinians good, nor vice versa.

Stop being closed minded, again anyone criticizing Israel does not make them anti semitic, that is h=just stupid blackmail and intimidation.
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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All this means nothing. Israel has an immigration policy like any other country. Its their country.

By your logic, a person born in Brazil to US born parents automatically should have the right of return to the US with automatic citizenship even though his parents no longer live in the US.

Why should illegals in Israel be treated any differently than illegals in the US. At least Israel takes the time to deport them. Egypt shoots them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/15/world/middleeast/15egypt.html?_r=0
Palestinians have been living in the region for centuries, to say that Jews from Poland or Argentina or where else can live there but not Palestinians is stupid. Arabs have lived in that region for forever, Palestine was not an empty land when Israel was created.
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Good for Roger Waters!
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:40 AM
 
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The lunatic is in his head?
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Old 08-23-2013, 02:19 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Palestinians have been living in the region for centuries, to say that Jews from Poland or Argentina or where else can live there but not Palestinians is stupid. Arabs have lived in that region for forever, Palestine was not an empty land when Israel was created.
No it wasn't empty. But look at nearly every Arab country. Where are all their Jews? They didn't just say "Hey look a Jewish Homeland, lets just pickup and leave the homes we've known for 100's of years". If so then they would've left in 1876 when the Ottomans legalized the region for Jews to purchase land. Instead they stayed put where they were. The Jews who came in 1876 were the Europeans. How do you think the ability to do Agriculture got there. The European Jews brought true farming to the region. Before 1948 there were 100,000's of Jews there before WW2 was even an inkling in Hitlers eyes. The Million that came afterwards came from the Arab countries because they were evicted in droves from their lands. No matter how the Palestinians spin it there was no forced (there was a plan written on it, but it never was put in place) mass exodus of Arabs by Jews. Every speech done by the entering Jews was to live side by side with their fellows Arabs. And what did the Jews get, another attempt to mass murder them. Look up the Grand Mufti as he told the Arab people to leave the region for their safety so the Arabs could come in from numerous countries and cleanse the lands of Jews. So yes there is no law of return for Arabs. They did that all to themselves. If the Jews truly wanted the Arabs out then why after 1967 did they not evict all the Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank? Israel had the power to do so, yet they still held on to the belief that Arabs and Jews could live together. There millions upon millions of Arabs living within borders of Israel. Yet show us the same for any other Arab country. They have ethnically cleansed the Jews out and now their working on the Christians.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Palestinians have been living in the region for centuries, to say that Jews from Poland or Argentina or where else can live there but not Palestinians is stupid. Arabs have lived in that region for forever, Palestine was not an empty land when Israel was created.
Palestinians have what? They are migrants from syria, egypt and jordan - just like arafat. They came to israel with the jewish influx to work on the collective farms, until the lowlife political arabs decided to rile things up and attack the jews, going back to the late 1800s. If the entire mideast is the "region" to which you refer, fine, but claiming that they were living in israel/west bank/gaza for centuries in anywhere near the numbers they are now is laughable.
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