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View Poll Results: Intelligent Design?
Yes, teach it along with Evolution 22 15.28%
No, teach only Evolution 121 84.03%
No, teach only Intelligent Design 1 0.69%
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Prove your "theory" of creation.
I don't have one.

The fact that we exist is proof of creation.

The fact that all that we see at the far reaches of he universe prove creation.

The question is, how and why?

Prove your "pop" theory of creation.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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Darwinism doesn't say everything "popped" into existence. That is what creationism says.
Why are you being so obtuse?

Without creation, evolution cannot exist.

Comparing creation to evolution is like comparing an ant to a dinosaur.

Now, if you compare natural evolution to "God did it", you have an argument.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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What if the science is wrong?

Coming from a free thinking non-believer in god.
Scientists get things wrong all the time, and they either figure it out and correct it or another scientist figures it out and corrects it. "Science" is not simply a body of knowledge, it is a self-correcting structure of inquiry to understand the world.

When a scientist is confronted with an error or contradiction, he or she will never respond by pointing out what is written in a three thousand year old book.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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No, because that's a silly Creationist straw man argument.

Are you in the "a mythical male parental deity figure just poofed everything into existence" camp?
Intelligent design is far more reasonable than your "pop" theory.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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It's funny when creationists make this argument, when the reality is that their belief system requires that an even more fantastically complex thing with the power to create universes and write the laws of physics simply popped into existence.
Physicists already believe that physics work differently in different universes.

I believe this.

I am anxious to learn how it all started.

I'm not about discounting anything.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I don't have one.

The fact that we exist is proof of creation.

The fact that all that we see at the far reaches of he universe prove creation.

The question is, how and why?

Prove your "pop" theory of creation.
Nothing to prove. See, I can say "I don't know" and be ok with that. I don't know how life started. That is not a reason to believe that "god did it".
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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Nothing to prove. See, I can say "I don't know" and be ok with that. I don't know how life started. That is not a reason to believe that "god did it".
I'm also okay with "I don't know" as well.

I just believe that the order of things was put in motion by a higher power.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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Coming from someone who believes in invisible sky fairies, I'll give this statement all the credibility it deserves.
See.

There's no reason to be insulting.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's not theology....it's science.
I think we might have different definitions of what is science....clearly your science involves magic and fiction.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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I'm also okay with "I don't know" as well.

I just believe that the order of things was put in motion by a higher power.
And that isn't science. We can show how things have evolved. There is proof of evolution happening. That is why it is taught in science class.
We can not prove that god poofed the world into existence. That is why religion is taught in religious studies, philosophy, or mythology.
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