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Old 08-22-2013, 10:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Someone forgot to tell Alaska.

Deep Cold: Interior and Northern Alaska Weather & Climate: Summer 2013 - Arctic Temperatures
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Talking point alert!

He is giving the "Trenberth" excuse made recently.

CGD People | Kevin Trenberth



Do you know much about Trenberth? Probably not...

He is the guy that said it was a travesty they couldn't find that missing heat in the climategate emails. you know, the emails where all of these "experts" were talking about since they couldn't establish it in the science, they needed to make it political?

That said, notice how he claims "risk of drought" (how do you determine such, very unscientific of him) and "heat waves" have gone up (actually, this one is verifiable, but.. well... his claim is false, they aren't unprecedented). See how he also "excuses" the fact that he has no evidence to support his claims? He talks about "hot spots" that "move around" like they are some sneaky little villain that keeps eluding him and how he excuses that claim by saying "not very predictable".


Anyone who can accept this as evidence, as reason... well... they are either an idiot, or they are deviously biased.

This is why these guys are sinking fast and people are stepping away from them. They are not "scientists", the are political activists promoting policy change for their political ideal. People are starting to see right through them.
LOL! Looks like Casper has found the missing hotspot! LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Gone
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LOL! Looks like Casper has found the missing hotspot! LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!
Actually if you had not missed it several people in the south/southwest have stated that they also have hot temps, and I would remind you Texas is one really big hot spot and a little hard to discount.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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Actually if you had not missed it several people in the south/southwest have stated that they also have hot temps, and I would remind you Texas is one really big hot spot and a little hard to discount.
having lived in Dallas about half of my life, I am well aware of how hot Texas is. from June 1 to Sept 1 I wake up every morning and ask myself why I live here.

then Sept. hits, and I remember how awsome those other 9 months are... LOL....


As I said before, this summer has been quite mild. you should know that even though gosts cant FEEL, they can still read thermometers. Dallas has been GREAT this summer!
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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What I find odd about this is that when I was in high school, back in the early 1970s, we were taught about the 'greenhouse effect', including a demonstration with an aquarium or such. I don't recall anyone screaming that the 'greenhouse effect' was some sinister plot, it was just a fact. Indeed, some British scientist first predicted the warming of the Earth's atmosphere back in the 1890s, although he thought, based on the fossil fuel burn-rate then existing, that no appreciable change in climate would take place for 200 years.

Some posters herein like to cite the 1973 magazine (Time?) that had an article about whether the Earth was, in fact, heading towards another Ice Age. One reason the article got attention was that the author was arguing against the greenhouse effect, which was well-known. Of course, the author's assertions were quickly refuted by other scientists, and the issue was dropped.

It seems to me that 'things changed' when Al Gore came out with his little movie, and Rush Limbaugh was quick to claim it was all a liberal plot, saying 'follow the money'. Science went out the door, and partisan politics came in through the window.

I am certainly not a scientist, and I have never spent time in Antartica drilling ice samples, looking at tree rings, etc. However, I will note that in 1980 I visited the Lower Grindenwald glacier in Switzerland, that had a big exhibit showing where the glacier would be in the decades to come, as it retreated up the valley. My friend and I camped out at the base of the glacier, then very close to the town.

Now? It is gone, having retreated up the valley much, much faster than anticipated.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/30/wo...anted=all&_r=0

My experience does not 'prove' anything, but it does make me pause and listen to those whom have actually spent some time studying this issue (and by study, I do not mean cruise the web).
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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Ah, the common belief of the ignorant mob and climate change deniers.

Remember that thought the next time there is heat wave and you're being bombarded in the news about climate change.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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And yet the hottest statewide average temp was in 1921.....

And Lake Travis was 100% full 3 years ago.....

And the dryest year on record for Austin was 1954....

And three of the past six years Austin had HIGHER than average rainfall.....

See how easy it is to cherry pick data?
Did you not know? Global Warming causes Global Cooling, while Global Cooling causes Global Warming.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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having lived in Dallas about half of my life, I am well aware of how hot Texas is. from June 1 to Sept 1 I wake up every morning and ask myself why I live here.

then Sept. hits, and I remember how awsome those other 9 months are... LOL....


As I said before, this summer has been quite mild. you should know that even though gosts cant FEEL, they can still read thermometers. Dallas has been GREAT this summer!
This has been one of the best summers yet.
I'm still mowing in August. My grass is still greenish.
And I've seen rain at least once a week if not every other week.

Just this week I woke up and it was 70 degrees out. Thought I'd have to pull out the winter coat
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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This has been one of the best summers yet.
I'm still mowing in August. My grass is still greenish.
And I've seen rain at least once a week if not every other week.

Just this week I woke up and it was 70 degrees out. Thought I'd have to pull out the winter coat
We had one week of cooler than normal temps, the rest was hot, say what you will, I live here also and I have gotten one rain shower in the last month, I live in east Collin county. Todays temp high 98 degrees is Normal for this time of year.
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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It has indeed been a glorious summer in Alaska, no question about that. However, it is important to keep in mind than temperature and weather records in Alaska are less than a century old. There were no temperature and weather record-keeping in Alaska prior to 1917.
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