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Old 08-22-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The best way to make college better is construct more obstacles to keep unqualified people from attending. There used to be standards for attending college. Now anyone can get in if they can sign a loan agreement.
Everyone can get IN the door but less than 50% actually make it to the exit with a degree in hand.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Everyone can get IN the door but less than 50% actually make it to the exit with a degree in hand.
There is a predetermined path too many parents have set for their children.

Let me put it this way- it is ok if your kid wants to go into the trades.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:45 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Interesting take on the situation.

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Old 08-22-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Everyone can get IN the door but less than 50% actually make it to the exit with a degree in hand.

That is the problem. They flunk out without a degree or a marketable skill, but still have to repay or default on the "free money" they got from a loan.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There is a predetermined path too many parents have set for their children.

Let me put it this way- it is ok if you kid wants to go into the trades.
That predetermined path has been put in everyone's head.
It's sacrilege to even mention in K-12 about not going to college.
"Going to college" is used in K-12 as a statement of fact.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Interesting take on the situation.
Some are just not made to go to college.
It is ok, does not mean they are bad or dumb.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That is the problem. They flunk out without a degree or a marketable skill, but still have to repay or default on the "free money" they got from a loan.
Bingo. These are your burger flippers with student loans.

20 million entered college last year. Less than 50% will graduate.
So you have over 10 million dropping out from each entering group of college students.


The numbers are too big now to ignore.
Student Loan Repayment Tips for College Dropouts - US News and World Report
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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Interesting take on the situation.
The only thing missing from your poster is Government being responsipble for handing out the loans which cause the crippling debt.

If you blame the banks for the real estate bubble you better blame Government loans for the student loan bubble.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Bingo. These are your burger flippers with student loans.

20 million entered college last year. Less than 50% will graduate.
So you have over 10 million dropping out from each entering group of college students.


The numbers are too big now to ignore.
Student Loan Repayment Tips for College Dropouts - US News and World Report

They should have been denied entry in the first place. When I went to college, most that flunked out did so the first year when they decided to do something else with their life or their parents did the right thing and pulled them out of school by refusing to pay when they saw their grades.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Switching to an income based repayment plan is how the administration is dealing with default rates which are trending upward.

But that just drags out the loan and puts the US deeper in debt for a longer time.
They aren't fixing anything here...just providing a bandaid to curtail the default rate.
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