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Old 08-24-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Gee, wonder why?? Black, LGBT, illegals have their civil rights marches. Every group that has a "cause" seems to be able to hold marches. Is having a white civil rights march against the law??
Not at all. Fair is fair. And I'd rather see that happening rather read tons of irrational cries of foul play. It might even work better than when all the other groups did it decades ago...
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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So true. It sure is growing, as if it wasn't bad enough in the past.
Makes it all seem kinda futile sometimes because even large countriess where some progress has been made in combating racism and prejudice, the question remains: Have the improvements really rooted out the negative feelings of people or have they merely curbed the outward manifestation of those feelings?
At best such improvements only help prevent discrimination but may be powerless at eliminating prejudice. Why so? Because discrimination is an act that can be seen and punished by law, whereas prejudice is related to people’s inner thoughts and emotions, which cannot be easily regulated. Therefore, any attempt to eliminate prejudice must not merely curb discriminatory acts but also change a person’s thoughts and feelings toward people of another group. And so, the struggle continues....
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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First, white people make up a higher percentage of the population than black people. Hence if a black wants to rob some one and goes out to do so, he or she is more likely to run into a white random victim than a black one because there are more whites in America than blacks. At the same time, a white criminal who wants to rob someone at random is also more likely to run into a white person because whites are a higher percentage of the population and his or her chances of running into a white person is greater than running into a non-white.

That is why the number of crimes committed against whites by others is higher than vice verse: simple math, nothing more.

Second, black people are convicted of hate crimes too, and rightly so. But the motive has to be proven to be hate. Likewise, a white person attacking a black also needs to be proven that hate was the motive and not something else.

If a white guy comes home early from work and his wife is shagging the black mail man, and he beats the mail man up*, no judge or jury on Earth would call that a hate crime. It was simply because the man was shagging his wife, and that could have been a little green man from Mars for all he cares.

But if a white man with a Hitler tattoo, a shaved head and an autographed copy of the Turner Diaries goes out and beats up a lone black guy...yeah, that's probably a hate crime.

At the same time a random robbery committed by blacks may not be a hate crime, but some black nuwabbean dashiki Storm Trooper with big picture of Marcus Garvey over his bed and an autographed picture of Farrakhan goes out and beats up a white guy...yeah, that probably a hate crime.

And blacks do get convicted of hate crimes if the motive is proven to be racial hatred:

Nine Convicted in Long Beach Hate-Crime Trial : NPR


* And for the record, I could never understand why someone would want to beat up the guy shagging his wife anyway. She was the one who did the cheating, not him!
How come it's just blacks killing whites in large numbers then? How come hispanics and asians and every other race aren't? Explain that one mr liberal.

Blacks are only brought up on hate charges if the white victim is also gay or transgender or some nonsense like that. If hate crimes should be taken seriously tell me why the oklahoma killers weren't charged with hate crimes even though the shooter killed the white "cus he was bored" and had a black power picture on his fb account, and said he hates 90% of whites on his twitter account...the other black shooter said that he "already knocked off 5 woods(pecckerwoods) since zimmerman trial ended".

But there STILL WASN'T A HATE CRIME CHARGE. If that isn't a hate crime what is???

DA: Teens accused in ballplayer's slaying won't be charged with hate crimes - U.S. News
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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How come it's just blacks killing whites in large numbers then? How come hispanics and asians and every other race aren't? Explain that one mr liberal.
First, I am not a liberal. I am a Democratic Socialist. A quick visual:

Liberal:



Democratic Socialist:





Second, blacks are not killing whites "in large numbers." Most crime is intraracial, not interracial.

84% of all white people are killed by whites:

84% of Murders of Whites Are White-on-White Crimes*Pensito Review

Now, the reason blacks commit more crime is simple: culture and the war on drugs. With the criminal culture of "da hood" so many blacks embrace, it gives many (but not all) of them a sense that to be authentic, they have to be thugs and hoodlums. That, and the war on drugs which unfairly targets blacks who are more likely to use cannabis as a part of their culture while leaving whites alone, who are more likely to abuse prescription drugs.

As our nation's drug policies change (with the inevitable legalization of cannabis) and blacks by and large slowly but surely get tired of the criminal subculture, you would expect to see crime rates among blacks change...actually, they are changing:

"Incarceration rates for black Americans dropped sharply from 2000 to 2009, especially for women, while the rate of imprisonment for whites and Hispanics rose over the same decade, according to a report released Wednesday by a prison research and advocacy group in Washington. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/us...hows.html?_r=0




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Blacks are only brought up on hate charges if the white victim is also gay or transgender or some nonsense like that. If hate crimes should be taken seriously tell me why the oklahoma killers weren't charged with hate crimes even though the shooter killed the white "cus he was bored" and had a black power picture on his fb account, and said he hates 90% of whites on his twitter account...the other black shooter said that he "already knocked off 5 woods(pecckerwoods) since zimmerman trial ended".




But there STILL WASN'T A HATE CRIME CHARGE. If that isn't a hate crime what is???
Ah, actually, a black man was charged with a hate crime for doing just that,

Chicago: Black Man Charged With Hate Crime After Attacking White Man Because He Was Upset About Trayvon Martin Case… | Weasel Zippers

And there have been convictions of blacks in hate crimes that did not involve "gays or other nonsense"

Nine guilty in beatings
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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Blacks are only brought up on hate charges if the white victim is also gay or transgender or some nonsense like that. If hate crimes should be taken seriously tell me why the oklahoma killers weren't charged with hate crimes even though the shooter killed the white "cus he was bored" and had a black power picture on his fb account, and said he hates 90% of whites on his twitter account...the other black shooter said that he "already knocked off 5 woods(pecckerwoods) since zimmerman trial ended".
1. Blacks are brought up on hate crimes charges for solely racial bias. If you'd stopped foaming at the mouth and ever checked the actual source, you'd realize what an embarrassing statement you have made here.

2. To be charged with a hate crime is difficult, if you were a life-long stormfront member that hated blacks, just running over one in a crosswalk is not enough. If you were screaming out your window before impact "die n***ers" in front of witnesses then yah, hate crime charges.

Don't respond unless linking to the FBI hate crime stats, would be nice to see you get a little informed prior to opining.....
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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First, I am not a liberal. I am a Democratic Socialist. A quick visual:

Liberal:



Democratic Socialist:





Second, blacks are not killing whites "in large numbers." Most crime is intraracial, not interracial.

84% of all white people are killed by whites:

84% of Murders of Whites Are White-on-White Crimes*Pensito Review

Now, the reason blacks commit more crime is simple: culture and the war on drugs. With the criminal culture of "da hood" so many blacks embrace, it gives many (but not all) of them a sense that to be authentic, they have to be thugs and hoodlums. That, and the war on drugs which unfairly targets blacks who are more likely to use cannabis as a part of their culture while leaving whites alone, who are more likely to abuse prescription drugs.

As our nation's drug policies change (with the inevitable legalization of cannabis) and blacks by and large slowly but surely get tired of the criminal subculture, you would expect to see crime rates among blacks change...actually, they are changing:

"Incarceration rates for black Americans dropped sharply from 2000 to 2009, especially for women, while the rate of imprisonment for whites and Hispanics rose over the same decade, according to a report released Wednesday by a prison research and advocacy group in Washington. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/us...hows.html?_r=0






Ah, actually, a black man was charged with a hate crime for doing just that,

Chicago: Black Man Charged With Hate Crime After Attacking White Man Because He Was Upset About Trayvon Martin Case… | Weasel Zippers

And there have been convictions of blacks in hate crimes that did not involve "gays or other nonsense"

Nine guilty in beatings
Poor choice for democratic socialist mascot since the Chinese and Russians are killing off all those cats but oh well.

Otherwise, I entirely agree but why not next time just link to the actual hate crime stats? They are cold, hard facts and would make the poster you responded to look even more the fool than your anecdotal examples.
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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Now, the reason blacks commit more crime is simple: culture and the war on drugs. With the criminal culture of "da hood" so many blacks embrace, it gives many (but not all) of them a sense that to be authentic, they have to be thugs and hoodlums. That, and the war on drugs which unfairly targets blacks who are more likely to use cannabis as a part of their culture while leaving whites alone, who are more likely to abuse prescription drugs.

As our nation's drug policies change (with the inevitable legalization of cannabis) and blacks by and large slowly but surely get tired of the criminal subculture, you would expect to see crime rates among blacks change...actually, they are changing:

"Incarceration rates for black Americans dropped sharply from 2000 to 2009, especially for women, while the rate of imprisonment for whites and Hispanics rose over the same decade, according to a report released Wednesday by a prison research and advocacy group in Washington. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/us...hows.html?_r=0






Ah, actually, a black man was charged with a hate crime for doing just that,

Chicago: Black Man Charged With Hate Crime After Attacking White Man Because He Was Upset About Trayvon Martin Case… | Weasel Zippers

And there have been convictions of blacks in hate crimes that did not involve "gays or other nonsense"

Nine guilty in beatings

OK so once in a while theyll be charged with hate crimes but rarely compared to whites. with whites if u kill a black or have any altercation with a black for any reason they're immediately looking to decide whether hate crimes should be filed. But when 2 black men kill a white guy for no reason in oklahoma and have all kinds of anti white posts online how is it not a hate crime?

Black teen who murdered Australian posted racist Tweets | The Daily Caller



how about this one? 20 on 1 beating in alabama and only 1 of them gets arrested for it and released on a 7500 bond even though he's got shootings on his record from before. Where's the justice for the other 19? no hate crime? Why are black on white 3 on 1, 5 on 1, 10 on 1, 20 on 1 common as hell but white on black ones are always a lone wolf? sounds like a cultural problem to me.

And lots of people everywhere are on drugs these days. Pills, meth, molly, bath salts, you name it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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1. Blacks are brought up on hate crimes charges for solely racial bias. If you'd stopped foaming at the mouth and ever checked the actual source, you'd realize what an embarrassing statement you have made here.

2. To be charged with a hate crime is difficult, if you were a life-long stormfront member that hated blacks, just running over one in a crosswalk is not enough. If you were screaming out your window before impact "die n***ers" in front of witnesses then yah, hate crime charges.

Don't respond unless linking to the FBI hate crime stats, would be nice to see you get a little informed prior to opining.....


Here's all the evidence you need

Teen charged in

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


So now tell me why hate crime charges weren't filed??? This is one of the most obvious hate crimes as I've ever seen.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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If all you have to do to be charged with a hate crime as a white man is to be a stormfront member or have racist posts somehwere then pretty much every black person in florida that kills a white can be brought up on them since most blacks here call whites "Crackaz" and use that word almost as much as the nword when they're hating on them. it's all over their fb's and would not be hard to find at all.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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Second, black people are convicted of hate crimes too, and rightly so. But the motive has to be proven to be hate. Likewise, a white person attacking a black also needs to be proven that hate was the motive and not something else.
a big part of the problem is the media. when a white person commits a crime against a black person, the media starts screaming racism and hate crime at the top of their lungs, and the "civil rights leaders" follow suit demanding that the white person be charged with a hate crime despite the fact that there is no evidence that a hate crime took place. on the other hand when a black person commits a crime against a white person, virtually NO ONE even whispers the word racism, and the subject of hate crimes doesnt even come up. in fact the suspect is rarely even identified by their race. it becomes essentially "some guy got beat up today, and they died as a result, the police have a suspect in custody", where as the white on black crime goes more like "a white guy beat up a black guy today, the black died as a result. local civil rights leaders are calling for hate crime charges to be pressed against the white guy say that crimes like this must stop in this country."

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If a white guy comes home early from work and his wife is shagging the black mail man, and he beats the mail man up*, no judge or jury on Earth would call that a hate crime. It was simply because the man was shagging his wife, and that could have been a little green man from Mars for all he cares.
that may be true that a judge and jury wont call it a hate crime, but the media and the "civil rights leaders" will.

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* And for the record, I could never understand why someone would want to beat up the guy shagging his wife anyway. She was the one who did the cheating, not him!
that may be, but we as men have been brought up to believe that if you are a real man, you just dont hit women.
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