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Running a candidate and trying to win an election is a "political power grab"?
Anyone who would say that, or who thinks that an independent or third party candidate has a chance to be elected president, just doesn't understand politics.
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I never plan to vote. I often vote independent if that is the best person for the job. I do not vote for any party. The party system is what causes the government to spend so much time doing nothing.
"Disrupt" rather than honorably attracting support through actually doing the work of convincing Americans that your movement actually has better ideas.
Noted.
And thank you for being honest about that.
Yes. Disrupt the current corrupt system that we have that's leading us down the wrong path.
Thanks for letting me know your ok with the way things are.
To say that I lack solutions would be fighting words. But of course I'm not gonna share all of my ideas on the internet so that others can simply call them their own.
Pledging to vote a vague, easily corruptible label, sight-unseen, is irrational.
Yep, much better to vote for one of the two proven corrupt labels that have a lock on the system for over a century now. Voting D or R is really no different than voting in the soviet union was. They pick the candidate, and all others are shut out.......hardly a real choice, but the illusion of a choice works for most of the sheep I guess.
I was raised in a staunch Democrat family in blue collar Michigan, to young to vote for Carter, I supported him none the less. By 1980 I was ready to vote for anybody but Carter, like almost everyone else at the time.
The Carter years is where I became disillusioned. I no longer had any illusions about political parties, and have always researched the policies they aspouse before they earn my vote. The last several election cycles have not seen me vote for either of the two "mainstream" parties. My conscience will not allow it.
If a 3rd party wants to exist on the national level, they need a foundation in the state level first, and then US Congress before ever running for president. The reason why is lets say we elect a 3rd party president but that have no 3rd party people in Congress or as governors, who is that 3rd party going to work with? Democrats or Republicans? Then at that point, why not just elect one of the two parties?
Ross Perot demonstrated that an Ind can change an election. The majority of his voters were conservatives.
You vote for the third party to send the message to the 2 major parties that you dont accept their monopoly.
The 3rd party may not be any different than the corrupt DEMs and the GOP, but we can fire them also.
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Its the only way to save our nation in all honesty.
