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If your job is to collect honey then you are going to watch out of the guard bees; if your job is to fight fires then you are gong to watch out for the backdraft; if your job is to hunt dear then you are going to follow the dear tracks; if your job is to stop terrorism then... well, you get the idea.
Considering the fascist governing in New York, can anyone say they are surprised by this revelation? I am not a Muslim, nor do I have any fondness of Islam, however, I am an American and in this country what New York is doing is flat out wrong and anti-American. Bloomberg and is ilk should be thrown in prison for this atrocity. Anyone who can support this blatant violation of our constitutional rights cannot claim to be American. They are total scum.
The lady's charity operated out of a mosque. The largest Muslim charity in the United States was found guilty of acting as a front for Palestinian militants. It was the largest terrorism financing prosecution in American history. So, even though her charity may be perfectly innocent, I can see why it and the mosque was looked into. I think they said there had been 12 investigations since 2001. That's only about one per year, I don't consider that an excessive amount in a large city.
Since you seem to enjoy taking people's quotes out of context, I will return the favor:
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I have no problem with ... people who conspire against the US.
I remember the first attack on the WTC in 1993 very well. What you obviously have deliberately chosen to forget is that individuals were charged, not everyone who attended a particular mosque.
New York is deliberately targeting absolutely everyone who attends a particular mosque, not individuals. In short, New York (supposedly supported by the federal courts) is waging a war against Islam, just like NAZI Germany waged a war against Judaism.
if the NYPD can stop and frisk the average Joe for walking down the street, the least they can do is frisk the religious nuts that worship a camel herding prophet that teaches all people will burn in hell for eternity if they don't worship Allah...the Quran is pure evil and should be treated as such...
New York's "Stop & Frisk" policy has already been ruled unconstitutional. Before anyone can be stopped and frisked there must be a reasonable suspicion that can be articulated that a crime has been, is in the process of being, or will be, committed. See Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968).
What New York is doing violates not just the Fourth Amendment, but also the First Amendment.
Do not Christians also believe that if you do not worship their God you will burn in Hell for eternity? Maybe we should start to investigate and conduct surveillance against everyone who walks into a church, since you seem to feel that is "pure evil" and treat it as such.
Please explain the difference between what you believe is bigotry in this case and common sense, forming expectations based on consistently recurring past events, connecting the dots or learning from experience?
It is bigotry when everyone who enters a building is targeted for investigation and surveillance. It is common sense to investigate and conduct surveillance against individuals suspected of committing, or planning on committing, a crime. The former targets an entire religion, the latter only targets individuals.
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New York's "Stop & Frisk" policy has already been ruled unconstitutional. Before anyone can be stopped and frisked there must be a reasonable suspicion that can be articulated that a crime has been, is in the process of being, or will be, committed. See Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968).
What New York is doing violates not just the Fourth Amendment, but also the First Amendment.
Do not Christians also believe that if you do not worship their God you will burn in Hell for eternity? Maybe we should start to investigate and conduct surveillance against everyone who walks into a church, since you seem to feel that is "pure evil" and treat it as such.
I feel the same way about the bible!! and any book that preaches that people will burn in the hell fire for eternity for not obeying stupid rules, is evil in my rule book.. but if you want more bang for your book the Quran makes for better fire place kindling!!! way more BTU's cometh from the Quran than any bible..
ISLAM is way more evil than Christianity in the modern day!!! and should be profiled as such an evil entity.. did you see ANY Christians flying those planes into the WTC/ pentagon
I feel the same way about the bible!! and any book that preaches that people will burn in the hell fire for eternity for not obeying stupid rules, is evil in my rule book.. but if you want more bang for your book the Quran makes for better fire place kindling!!! way more BTU's cometh from the Quran than any bible..
ISLAM is way more evil than Christianity in the modern day!!! and should be profiled as such an evil entity.. did you see ANY Christians flying those planes into the WTC/ pentagon
I do not consider anything to be "evil." "Evil" is purely a religious concept. The antonym of "good" is "bad", not "evil."
There is no monotheistic religion that can make the claim they are non-violent. I do not consider Islam to be any better or worse than Christianity or Judaism. If New York was investigating and conducting surveillance against Christians or Jews merely because they walked into a church or synagogue, I would be equally outraged by the violation of our constitutionally protected First and Fourth Amendment rights.
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I do not consider anything to be "evil." "Evil" is purely a religious concept. The antonym of "good" is "bad", not "evil."
There is no monotheistic religion that can make the claim they are non-violent. I do not consider Islam to be any better or worse than Christianity or Judaism. If New York was investigating and conducting surveillance against Christians or Jews merely because they walked into a church or synagogue, I would be equally outraged by the violation of our constitutionally protected First and Fourth Amendment rights.
what about Hitler, Stalin kin Jong Il 1 2 3,Sadam Hussein ,Omar Kadafi, Pol Pot and friends were they not evil?? and many others in the terror band..
what about Hitler, Stalin kin Jong Il 1 2 3,Sadam Hussein ,Omar Kadafi, Pol Pot and friends were they not evil?? and many others in the terror band..
Like I said, I do not consider anything to be "evil." Those you mentioned were monsters, psychotic, depraved, malignant, and unworthy to be considered human, but not "evil."
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but if you want more bang for your book the Quran makes for better fire place kindling!!! way more BTU's cometh from the Quran than any bible..
