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Old 09-06-2013, 07:41 AM
 
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Huh, if middle class jobs rebound, Obama will think they have too much money and demand it in the form of higher taxes.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Huh, if middle class jobs rebound, Obama will think they have too much money and demand it in the form of higher taxes.
I doubt it. The jobs shifted offshore and they won't be coming back.
What we have left is service jobs.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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All the jobs didn't suddenly disappear or go overseas when Obama took office you know.

It's his horrible economic policies that are to blame!

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Old 09-07-2013, 04:19 AM
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All the jobs didn't suddenly disappear or go overseas when Obama took office you know.
Indeed, the biggest loss of jobs in recent memory actually happened during the year prior to when President Obama took office, when the Republicans held the White House.
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:02 AM
 
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Indeed, the biggest loss of jobs in recent memory actually happened during the year prior to when President Obama took office, when the Republicans held the White House.
Who told America he'd fix that?

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Old 09-07-2013, 06:20 AM
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Denial perhaps safeguards your fragile hope that President Obama hasn't done a good job, but the fact is that once President Obama's policies went into effect in the middle of 2009, the plunge into the abyss instigated under President Bush was arrested and reversed, and 6.1 million private-sector jobs were added over 35 months. There's still more work to do, and things are definitely being slowed down, and even reversed to some extent, by the RWNJs in Congress and in red states, but progress has been made, and if we can defeat the obstructionist RWNJs in Congress and in red states at next year's elections, the steady climb can resume.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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Indeed, the biggest loss of jobs in recent memory actually happened during the year prior to when President Obama took office, when the Republicans held the White House.
That's actually false. The largest job loss was under Obama in 2009



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Old 09-07-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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and what does that have to do with anything


who PUSHED nafta throught the congress and signed it......the liberal globalist clinton

who directed the chief's of hud (cisneros and cuomo) to push these 'new' loans and such.....the liberal globalist clinton

who pushed for china to get into te world bank, and get most favored nation status....again the liberal globalist clinton

and NONE of it went though a gop controlled congress....and many of the gop (especially the neo-cons) are liberal globalists too
And let's not forget the India riato connection to Clinton. The riato deal he made that sent over a hundred thousand jobs to india ! And you wonder why the "customer service person" can not understand you when you call?
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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How would you feel if you were our friend a loyal employee for the past 23 years. A good hard worker, a good family man, a good father, a good husband. Now depressed as hell.

Honestly it is sad to watch someone who has always worked his entire life, to now be so damn depressed. And he is not the only one. The other on the job for 17 long years.

But we know employees whose hours from full time, are now part time employees. They know why, they are not stupid.

But 23 of your freaking years, now down the tube. That is the reality i see, don't need no gosh damn media, or news to tell us what i see and witness from real people.

The other thing i am witnessing is seeing college grads moving back home. They can't make it without a job, and can't pay their loans off without a full time job. I know a Law grad, who can only find part time work no matter what she does, part time.

Doctors in my state, are leaving practices, and some will gladly tell you why, prefer not too. Think you get the jest. Where are these jobs, please do tell for the many out of work empoyees, can maybe find a job. Where are the jobs, if they are out there, people i know would be working believe me. These are not your lazy bum types, that live off the government. These are hard working people.

I don't see where all the jobs are, i really don't and we have friends in many many different States.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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oh please...its the far left fascist/socialist globalists that are responsible for our ills

let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 NAFTA-originally pushed by Brzezenski and his puppet carter,,moved along by reagan's VP bush1----negotiated by another brzezenski puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obama ahs increased it too, not only as Senateor Obama with OFTA, but also as potus obama..............hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages-----the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdown: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy


those are the two biggest causes of the great recession


then add these:



1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES
1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten years
1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry
2000 clinton signs the China trade bill
2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)
2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank

2002 bush and medicare part d....more big government

2003/4/5 republicans try to reighn in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/freddy..its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now

1965 liberals push medicare....say it will only cost 10 billion by 1995....in 1995 it cost 100 billion...in 2010 it cost 500 billion, 2012 it cost 600 billion AND CLIMBING



it aint the gop.....its the liberals that have cost us



carter, bush1, clinton, bush2, obama...all liberal (progressive) globalists

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