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Old 09-05-2013, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Anyone who ever expected digital data to be secure and private should have their head examined.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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almost every single red light has a camera. do you think they are there for looks? they are connected and active. not sure who looks at what is watched, but it sure no just used for traffic. there would not be so many on just one intersection. eventually, the cameras will be everywhere, and you will be tracked. like it or not.!
Not around here!
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:32 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Oh please, I'd be far more worried about the private sector having your data. Most people eagerly give it up. Just look at your average facebook account. The sad thing here is that people assume that their online data is secure.
I don't think it is legitimate to blame it on users. After all, for years they were told to make sure that for instance there is that lock symbol in front of URL's used for private data transfer like with banking. Most people are not IT specialists, if IT experts - not governments - tell them that https is safe, they have to assume it really is. When obviously even those IT companies have been lying, the blame is on those companies, not on the ordinary user.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:52 PM
 
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The truth is ..... if you want to keep it private then don't put it on a computer. If you don't want you spending habits tracked then use cash and not a credit/debit card, etc. etc..

The online and digital world has destroyed any semblance of privacy. And we have been willing participants in that. We have embraced the online world. We only have ourselves to blame.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:53 PM
 
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I don't think it is legitimate to blame it on users. After all, for years they were told to make sure that for instance there is that lock symbol in front of URL's used for private data transfer like with banking. Most people are not IT specialists, if IT experts - not governments - tell them that https is safe, they have to assume it really is. When obviously even those IT companies have been lying, the blame is on those companies, not on the ordinary user.
I agree. Even if someone did as much as they could to stay off the internet, much of their personal data would still be on the webservers of the big insurance companies, hospitals, banks, whatever.

To me the government should not be keeping track of skype calls or personal e-mails. It's outrageous.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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In today's news from the Guardian:

"US and British intelligence agencies have successfully cracked much of the online encryption relied upon by hundreds of millions of people to protect the privacy of their personal data, online transactions and emails, according to top-secret documents revealed by former contractor Edward Snowden."

This includes banking data.

The NSA describes strong decryption programs as the "price of admission for the US to maintain unrestricted access to and use of cyberspace".

George Orwell was right.


US and UK spy agencies defeat privacy and security on the internet | World news | theguardian.com
Coming soon...they will know what you are thinking.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:55 PM
 
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The truth is ..... if you want to keep it private then don't put it on a computer. If you don't want you spending habits tracked then use cash and not a credit/debit card, etc. etc..

The online and digital world has destroyed any semblance of privacy. And we have been willing participants in that. We have embraced the online world. We only have ourselves to blame.
Spending habits would be the least of my privacy concerns. I would be concerned about health and employment records, bank records, Skype calls to countries the U.S. government doesn't like, airline bookings---things that are absolutely none of the government's business.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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In today's news from the Guardian:

"US and British intelligence agencies have successfully cracked much of the online encryption relied upon by hundreds of millions of people to protect the privacy of their personal data, online transactions and emails, according to top-secret documents revealed by former contractor Edward Snowden."

This includes banking data.

The NSA describes strong decryption programs as the "price of admission for the US to maintain unrestricted access to and use of cyberspace".

George Orwell was right.


US and UK spy agencies defeat privacy and security on the internet | World news | theguardian.com

And this is news to you? Where do you people come from? You actually believe all that patriotic hype? The NSA has access to help defend you. The white house and MIS-guided politicians may pervert it but, the intent is to protect. Have you seen 1/2 of America? You bet I want the NSA watching all of them very, very closely.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:02 PM
 
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Spending habits would be the least of my privacy concerns. I would be concerned about health and employment records, bank records, Skype calls to countries the U.S. government doesn't like, airline bookings---things that are absolutely none of the government's business.
Don't go to the doctor, don't use Skype, keep your money under the bed, don't fly and only do casual day labor type jobs. Your call.

As a society, we have willingly handed over this power to government as we embraced the digital revolution. The genie is out of the bottle and it ain't going to get put back in.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:08 PM
 
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It's only a small step from monitoring e-mails for signs of terrorist activity to monitoring e-mails for dissidence or views that oppose the government.
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