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Originally Posted by dsjj251
You cant blame this one on the left. The right was running national TV adds against national legislature the first week of January, and most state legislatures werent even in session at that point.
The Right wing had already created a national narrative before any Democrat had opened their mouth in a State House or Senate chamber.
They then perpetuated the lie that the legislature proposed was a violation of rights, and that the Gun lobby wasnt even allowed to be at the negotiating table, which was a flat out lie. The NRA had representatives at the white House and at House chambers and agreed to what the President Proposed and then campaigned against it in public.
NO, the left doesnt get the blame for this. The Right wing derailed the debate before it even started.
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WHOA!!!! Apparently you and I are living in parallel universes or something because what you describe is far different from what I saw happening.
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The Right wing had already created a national narrative before any Democrat had opened their mouth in a State House or Senate chamber.
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Thats funny, because as I recall, Democrats and left wing media were calling for more gun control before the bodies of the children were even cold. Literallly within an hour or two after the news broke, and thats a conservative estimate. It's probably more like within a half an hour. If you believe the Right started the narrative, you are truly fooling yourself.
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They then perpetuated the lie that the legislature proposed was a violation of rights
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It was a violation of rights. According to the Supreme Court, an Assault weapons ban would have been a violation of a Constitutional Right. They ruled that any firearm that is commonly and/or overwhelmingly owned by Americans for self defense or other lawful purposes was protected by the Second Amendment. Can't remember if that was the Heller decision or the McDonald, but it was one of'em. Doesn't really matter anyway, seing as an AWB would be based on nothing but cosmetic features and wouldn't take any firearm off the market based on it's functionality or lethality and thereby, was a complete hoax.
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The NRA had representatives at the white House and at House chambers and agreed to what the President Proposed and then campaigned against it in public.
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Proof of this claim? Were you there? Maybe you have a link? And the NRA never denied it's involvment in the meetings, but came out and said that they afforded them a spot basically in an effort to look like they cared what the NRA had to say, which they didn't. I can see that happening. It's believable.
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NO, the left doesnt get the blame for this. The Right wing derailed the debate before it even started
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Like I said, vastly different universes you and I live in apparently. Just face it, somewhere along the line, the left fell for it's own lie that "the country had fundamentaly changed it's views on guns"..... They thought they had the opportunity of a lifetime, put it all out on the table, and lost. It's really that simple. As a result of all the draconian and insane proposals, the gate to meanigful discussion and debate was slammed shut, nothing got done at all, and the blood of the victims of the next tragedy may well be on their hands.