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Old 09-05-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Hey pay em all a hundred grand a year. Why not??
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What's the least YOU would work for?

That's what the minimum wage should be. For you.

Same question for the next guy.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: USA (dying to live in Canada)
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$10 an hour ($15 in expensive cities and states)
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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Wages should be negotiated between employer and employee, no wage laws are needed and the ones we have only contribute to further unemployment.

Housing standards should be negotiated between landlord and tenant, no zoning, density, or unrelated occupancy laws are needed and the ones we have only contribute to further homelessness and other manifestations of human need.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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Hey pay em all a hundred grand a year. Why not??

Because then the workers currently earning between $7.25/hr and $100K/yr go on strike.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:49 PM
 
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So what. Go strike away and watch your twinkie jobs go to somebody else. Stop whining and get a better job.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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There shouldnt be one. It was never designed to support a family. It was politically driven for votes, it just ruins businesses and raises costs.

It was never designed to support a family, but more and more people are trying to support families on minimum wage jobs, due largely to economic decline and downward mobility, which this country is showing itself incapable to coping with intelligently. It seems obvious to me that the solution lies not in artificially mandating a higher minimum wage, but in reducing the excessive regulation which makes the existing minimum wage so hard to live on.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:59 PM
 
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So what. Go strike away and watch your twinkie jobs go to somebody else. Stop whining and get a better job.

Pay attention, you missed something.

If you increase minimum wage to $100K per year, when the burger flippers start getting paid on the basis of $100K annually, the MID-LEVEL workers, having been leapfrogged in pay by twinkies, will go on strike. The twinkie workers are insignificant, since replacing them is trivial. When the mid-level workers go on strike, replacing them will NOT be trivial and that's where your problem will lie.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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The current rate is good now. its a reflection on today's market (for unskilled new laborers) and a fine line so that it isn't considered slave labor.
Agreed here. Don't change it in my opionion. My current belief is that the best option for the laborer is to have numerous jobs available, which means having a low unemployment rate.

Ways to decrease unemployment:
Get rid of mandatory healthcare
Get rid of corporate tax completely
Get rid of unions rights
Get rid of hiring/firing regulations.
Don't raise minimum wage
Make disability to be a risk that the laborer must agree to before accepting the job

While all of these may seem to make it harder for the average worker, they will significantly decrease unemployment. Which means that you can threaten your boss with quitting instead of your boss threatening you about getting fired/laid off. If a jobs to risky, then you wouldn't have to take it because there would be other jobs you could take. Same story if the job requires too many hours or your boss is an a-hole.

While trying to help the workers, minimum wage and unions and healthcare and the rest actually restrict the supply of jobs and make it worse for the laborer and not better. At least this is my opinion.
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Okay, say they do increase the minimum wage to $10 an hour, businesses are just going to increase the price of their service/product to make up for the increased cost of labor. I mean, a business is in business to make money, right?

So those who make more than minimum wage will not get an increase but their expenses will go up because a gallon of milk, loaf of bread, pound of ground beef, etc. will all cost more. So people who make more than minimum wage will have less money left after buying groceries and things they need. So what's going to give? Things they don't need at the moment like clothes they could wear a little longer or the car they're going to try and get a few more miles out of. The economy would be stagnant again.

And those who are working at the new minimum wage will still be scrapping by check to check.
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