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Old 09-06-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ntwrkguy1 View Post
You have an incredibly low bar for "successful".
7 figures in assets, nice 6 figure job, education from top flight universities, and top political appointments in the country are an incredibly low bar for success?

What is your idea of success?
Have you acheived it, or come close?
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Repealed in 1795. The 1795 Act conferred the status of citizen and not natural born citizen. Why? A naturalized citizen is not a natural born citizen.


The 1795 Act, increased the period of required residence from, two to five years.
The 1795 Act defined that naturalization only applied to White People.

What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1798?
What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1802?
What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1902?
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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7 figures in assets, nice 6 figure job,

What is your idea of success?
Have you acheived it, or come close?

All paid with tax dollars, taken from We The People, they themselves pass bills to achieve.
I'm trying to end it!
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The 1795 Act, increased the period of required residence from, two to five years.
The 1795 Act defined that naturalization only applied to White People.

What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1798?
What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1802?
What is next, the Naturalization Act of 1902?
The key word: NATURALIZATION

A statutorily naturalized citizen is not a natural born citizen.

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7 FAM 1131.6-2 Eligibility for Presidency
(TL:CON-68; 04-01-1998)
a. It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person who acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural born citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and, therefore, eligible for the Presidency.
d. ...In any event, the fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes.
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf

PLUS, the NATURALIZATION act of 1795 rescinded the status of natural born citizen to those born abroad.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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All paid with tax dollars, taken from We The People, they themselves pass bills to achieve.
I'm trying to end it!
So politicians should work for free?

...or do you want to fund the positions so they pay so low the only people who want to work there can get nothing else?

Personally, I am willing to pay 6 figure salaries to get good people in the positions. Just like I am willing to pay for doctors, mechanics, laywers, and every other professional that knows what the hell they are doing. They need to pay the bills, and feed their family, just like everyone else.

If you want to pay even worse, the quality of people you will attract won't go up. It reminds me of those people who get bargin basement health care, and wonder why the shots they were given weren't actually medicine...but things like rotton milk.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.



Since we no longer practice Constitutional law, we practice precedence law, made by judges in a black robe on a bench... We have set precedence in the route to Ted Cruz, actually becoming President.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.



Since we no longer practice Constitutional law, we practice precedence law, made by judges in a black robe on a bench... We have set precedence in the route to Ted Cruz, actually becoming President.
Oh, a birther...no wonder the stuff you are saying is completely delusional.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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Since we no longer practice Constitutional law, we practice precedence law, made by judges in a black robe on a bench... We have set precedence in the route to Ted Cruz, actually becoming President.
Which SCOTUS ruling pronounced those born abroad to be natural born citizens for Constitutional purposes?
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So politicians should work for free?


Civil service should be done from the heart, not for the money.
You equate it with money, and you get control of the people, for profit.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Since we no longer practice Constitutional law
The U.S. Constitution is dead? Since when?
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