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Old 09-08-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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True. Liberals have so damaged the country in the past 50 year march to government dependence and victimhood mentality that the best way to motivate people is to galvanize them to throw liberals out. It's a sad comment on liberal bigotry and incompetence that people respond more to cries of getting rid of liberals and their failures than they do to messages of growth and hope. Of course, liberals already knew that and have been manufacturing fear and hatred to campaign against for a long while now. One of the Romney campaign's mistakes was thinking that taking a mild mannered approach would cause people to vote for him.
Wow..... Please tell us how you really feel another sheep. Because Republicans have never played the victim card, galvanize them (re-distracting and religious fundamentalism), and certainly never EVER manufactured hate and fear.....


Seriously, YOU are what's wrong with this country with your hyper partisanship.

 
Old 09-08-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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For some idiot reason, both Republicans and Democrats have agreed to cook the books and tweak this or that to make unemployment rates look a lot better than they really are. Sounds like what you'd expect from politicians, right? Lies to make us all feel better.

Here is the reality.
Labor Participation Rate. (Source: United States Bureau of Labor and Statistics)


LPR is a raw number of the percentage of Americans that are currently employed. It doesn't get tweaked at all. LPR says we're still dropping like a rock.
Agreed. Look at the U6 unemployment graph, it's like a mirror image of the labor participation rate, which makes the U6 rate as useless as the U3.

If a million people left the labor force next month the liberal talking heads in politics and the media would scream cries of joy, and the brain-dead, partisan drones would shake their pom-poms and chant 0bama's name.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I know you were posting this as a retort to what the other person said, but what's sad is that it's true. It is truly amazing how Orwellian the Democrats have become. To be fair, conservatives are the same way but it isn't anywhere close to the extent the Democrats are. I think it has to do with political correctness. Political correctness doesn't just disagree with its opponents, it demonizes them. If you disagree with a liberal then you're evil. It means if you don't agree with current liberal orthodoxy, whatever it happens to be, then you will be demonized too. If you were a liberal in good standing 10 years ago, when Democrats supported a gay marriage ban, if you didn't change your views on that they'd call you a bigot and a homophobe today. In the 70s you were a fascist thug if were hard on crime, but today you're an enabler of rape culture if you don't want rapists executed.

Here's a quote on illegal immigration:
“Our borders have overflowed with illegal immigrants placing tremendous burdens on our criminal justice system, schools, and social programs… . Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care, and other benefits often without paying any taxes.”

This was said by Harry Reid in his remarks introducing his legislation to end birthright citizenship.

The same Harry Reid who today says he will not even allow a vote on any legislation that doesn't include citizenship for illegal aliens.
It's amazing how spiteful and ignorant SOME conservatives have become because Obama took office. It was disheartening to see liberals attack Bush Jr, but it's been downright shameful how SOME conservatives have acted.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Wow..... Please tell us how you really feel another sheep. Because Republicans have never played the victim card, galvanize them (re-distracting and religious fundamentalism), and certainly never EVER manufactured hate and fear.....


Seriously, YOU are what's wrong with this country with your hyper partisanship.
He's talking about liberals, and you are talking about the two political parties.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's amazing how spiteful and ignorant SOME conservatives have become because Obama took office. It was disheartening to see liberals attack Bush Jr, but it's been downright shameful how SOME conservatives have acted.
Our constitution is being violated, and our freedoms are being stepped upon, are we not allowed to object just because half the nation chooses to be apathetic about it all??
 
Old 09-08-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The numbers went down because more people left the workforce: they simply gave up.

Under the current formula if everyone was unemployed and quit looking, the official rate would be zero.

There was nothing good about the last jobs report.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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I'm not certain what the actual numbers are, as it would seem most economic metrics are being fudged one way or another, but I do know that I have been having a hell of a time finding employees.

Either they aren't willing to work hard, do not have the aptitude for the work, or a simple lack of response to "help wanted" ads, but it doesn't seem very many people are seriously looking for work.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 02:07 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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He's talking about liberals, and you are talking about the two political parties.
And I am saying this posters hyper-partisan views are what is wrong with this country.

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Our constitution is being violated, and our freedoms are being stepped upon, are we not allowed to object just because half the nation chooses to be apathetic about it all??
Please take a civics course. It gets real annoying how people seem ignorant about how constitutionality is determined.

WHAT YOU MEAN, is that you disagree with how this country has become and YOU believe it is unconstitutional. However, YOU aren't a supreme court justice. YOU are more than welcome to express your opinion but that doesn't mean it is right.

It's just silly expect us to govern the same way the Founders when they had 13 million people (with millions of slaves) no steam power, and an agrarian based society.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And I am saying this posters hyper-partisan views are what is wrong with this country.



Please take a civics course. It gets real annoying how people seem ignorant about how constitutionality is determined.

WHAT YOU MEAN, is that you disagree with how this country has become and YOU believe it is unconstitutional. However, YOU aren't a supreme court justice. YOU are more than welcome to express your opinion but that doesn't mean it is right.

It's just silly expect us to govern the same way the Founders when they had 13 million people (with millions of slaves) no steam power, and an agrarian based society.
Yet YOU want to be governed using an oligarchy which is older than that and has always failed.

How's big government doing in the fixing the economy business? You remember the same entity that ruined the economy.
How's big government doing in never ending wars in the Middle East? Business as usual working?

Please take a history course. It gets real annoying how people seem ignorant about doing the same thing over and over again, doesn't work.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 03:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Wow..... Please tell us how you really feel another sheep. Because Republicans have never played the victim card, galvanize them (re-distracting and religious fundamentalism), and certainly never EVER manufactured hate and fear.....


Seriously, YOU are what's wrong with this country with your hyper partisanship.
Seriously, YOU are what's wrong with this country with your inability to recognize failed policies. Is that why you don't discuss policy?
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