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Old 09-09-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: MS
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I believe what the Constitutions says. That a well armed Militia is is necessary to the security of free people. If you want to use a gun, join the military.
I believe what it says as well.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Using standard grammar rules, the highlighted portion is the reason the right exists not a requirement. There are no other Amendments in the Bill of Rights that have a previous requirement before being codified.

Also, if you read Federalist 29 - The Federalist #29 you will find that the militia are the people, not the military.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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"It was a prank that went bad," said Praveen Lal, whose daughter Premila died at Longmont United Hospital on Friday night after she was shot at a family home at 2531 Cambridge Drive. "It is a kids' prank that went fatal."

Police believe Nerrek Galley, a family friend, shot Premila because he believed an intruder was in the home. He was arrested on suspicion of providing a firearm to a juvenile, child abuse and reckless endangerment, but has not been arrested on suspicion of any charges directly related to the shooting.

Praveen Lal said he was able to briefly speak with Galley at the hospital before his daughter was pronounced dead. He said Galley said he doesn't want to touch another gun, which is a major change of attitude for a man who was interested in shooting and gun ownership.


Longmont shooting victim's father details 'prank that went fatal'
Premila Lal was 'a ray of sunshine everywhere she went'


Well, that is one way of curing gunnuts of their gun addiction. But the body count is going to have to get pretty high before we get them all cured.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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Thats kind of hard to do. Do you have a source that he was prevented from acquiring firearms? A quick Google doesn't bring up any obvious results.
Suspect in massacre tried to buy rifle days before, sources say - Los Angeles Times
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Yeah, I don't think juveniles should be possessing loaded firearms.
I agree with that.

So let me know when you're coming over and I'll ensure that they're all in the safe.

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There must be something mentally wrong with me.
I agree with that, too.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Thats kind of hard to do. Do you have a source that he was prevented from acquiring firearms? A quick Google doesn't bring up any obvious results.
Funny. Mine did. Guess I'm just smarter than the average, obsessed gun hater. Here's one of several. It includes a video so reading comprehension won't be needed. You don't have to bother thanking me.

Reports: Lanza Attempted To Buy Rifle Days Before Shooting, Was Denied | Mediaite
"It was a prank that went bad," said Praveen Lal, whose daughter Premila died at Longmont United Hospital on Friday night after she was shot at a family home at 2531 Cambridge Drive. "It is a kids' prank that went fatal."

Police believe Nerrek Galley, a family friend, shot Premila because he believed an intruder was in the home. He was arrested on suspicion of providing a firearm to a juvenile, child abuse and reckless endangerment, but has not been arrested on suspicion of any charges directly related to the shooting.

Praveen Lal said he was able to briefly speak with Galley at the hospital before his daughter was pronounced dead. He said Galley said he doesn't want to touch another gun, which is a major change of attitude for a man who was interested in shooting and gun ownership.

Longmont shooting victim's father details 'prank that went fatal'
Premila Lal was 'a ray of sunshine everywhere she went'


Well, that is one way of curing gunnuts of their gun addiction. But the body count is going to have to get pretty high before we get them all cured.
Notice how, as soon as you refute a point he was trying to make, he ignores it and changes the subject?

As I said, you're wasing your time, acting like this person is interested in truth.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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To the best of my knowledge there has never been an attempt to repeal the Second Amendment. But I believe we are getting close. More and more people are getting fed up with irresponsible gun owners.
You haven't been watching the trends, then.

All around the country, gun laws have been loosening over the past few decades, not tightening up.

For example:



You're wrong on this, boomer. A few hand-wringing people that are scared of their own shadow are making a bunch of noise, but that's all it is. The trend is clearly moving in the direction of freedom when it comes to guns. If only it were true for other aspects of government encroachment...
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Anchorage Suburbanites and part time Willowbillies
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Notice how, as soon as you refute a point he was trying to make, he ignores it and changes the subject?

As I said, you're wasing your time, acting like this person is interested in truth.
Yeah, but it's fun......Bait hook, cast line, troll, reel in.....repeat!
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: MS
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"It was a prank that went bad," said Praveen Lal, whose daughter Premila died at Longmont United Hospital on Friday night after she was shot at a family home at 2531 Cambridge Drive. "It is a kids' prank that went fatal."

Police believe Nerrek Galley, a family friend, shot Premila because he believed an intruder was in the home. He was arrested on suspicion of providing a firearm to a juvenile, child abuse and reckless endangerment, but has not been arrested on suspicion of any charges directly related to the shooting.
Do stupid things and win stupid prizes.

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Praveen Lal said he was able to briefly speak with Galley at the hospital before his daughter was pronounced dead. He said Galley said he doesn't want to touch another gun, which is a major change of attitude for a man who was interested in shooting and gun ownership.
Had his daughter died in a car, would he have given up driving?

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Well, that is one way of curing gunnuts of their gun addiction. But the body count is going to have to get pretty high before we get them all cured.
I've had 3 family members have issues with drinking. Two are dead and the third has health issues that cannot be reversed. I still drink socially. I don't blame inanimate objects for people making bad decisions.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:45 PM
 
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You haven't been watching the trends, then.

All around the country, gun laws have been loosening over the past few decades, not tightening up.

For example:



You're wrong on this, boomer. A few hand-wringing people that are scared of their own shadow are making a bunch of noise, but that's all it is. The trend is clearly moving in the direction of freedom when it comes to guns. If only it were true for other aspects of government encroachment...
Maryland is listed as a may issue state. Try to get a CCP there. Good luck.
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Old 09-09-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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The shooter at sandy hook was prohibited from owning a gun, he stole his mothers poorly secured weapons to commit this heinous crime. If his mother had lived, I am certain she would have been charged with some sort of accessory to this crime. She knew he was a head case, but had guns in the house, poorly secured at that.
It's my belief that they were purchased for him - straw purchases. I have nothing to back that up, but I remember hearing something not long after it happened about how the guns were hanging on a wall in his bedroom. Makes sense, from what I know of that family (which is admittedly not a lot).
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