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Old 09-13-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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My dog Bob knows more about economics than the average Democrat.
Well put Bob on and let's put that to the test
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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Full-time employees. Instead of unpaid internships, part-time employees, and contract workers. That would be one thing they could spend their money on.
What exactly do you think those employees should be doing if there isnt a demand?
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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It is my understanding that food stamps ends up in the pockets of those business and industries that produce and sell food... Not sure how it left the economy or whatever nonsense. Corporate and social welfare yes, but that money didn't leave.
yes, wouldnt the same be said about cash that is taken out of the economy that goes to taxes which pays for the food stamp program? Or do you think the money comes from magical unicorns who prance around in Washington DC?
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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The economy has been improving for several years now. There has been job growth for several years now. There has been GDP growth for several years now.
All three have been stagnant. An average President would have presided over robust growth over the past few years. Sadly Obama has proven to be the very worst in US history.
It would be nice if some day I could get through a week without being embarrassed to be a conservative. You say Obama has been proven to be the worst President, yet you give no proof. You say an average President would have resided over robust proof, yet you give no reasons why.

This type of this is why we lost the last election. Mindless whining. You'd get a failing grade on that in grade school.

If you're going to complain about someone, then at least learn how to do it properly. Incidentally, I'd say that the guy who was POTUS for the 8 years before the Great Recession did a far worse job than the guy trying to fix the mess. Of course, it doesn't take that much logic to realize that the guy in charge when a huge mess is created is far worse than the poor guy who is trying to fix the mess.

Incidentally, nothing that McCain or Romney proposed was radically different from what Obama is done and plenty of the things he did propose didn't get through Congress.

Instead of whining and being yet another reason why indies don't vote R, you could use your brain and come up with some actual rational arguments.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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The economy has been improving for several years now. There has been job growth for several years now.
There are still more unemployed today, than 5 years ago..
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There has been GDP growth for several years now.
yes, thats what happens during every economic recovery since the beginning of time. By definition, thats what a recovery is.
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The depth and breadth of the recession was quite severe. It will take many in the multiple class years to recover to the point they were prior to the start of the recession, even if they never lost there job.
The discussion isnt going back to the point we were prior, its about returning to the point we were even when Obama took the oath of office.
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It looks to me that the dollar has been in an upward trend since the beginning of 2011.
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But the recession ended in 2009, and the value of the dollar isnt even what it was then, which indicates its not really a recovery.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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It would be nice if some day I could get through a week without being embarrassed to be a conservative. You say Obama has been proven to be the worst President, yet you give no proof. You say an average President would have resided over robust proof, yet you give no reasons why.
Perhaps because proof has already been posted numerous times before?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...rst-president/

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Old 09-13-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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yes, wouldnt the same be said about cash that is taken out of the economy that goes to taxes which pays for the food stamp program?
How is it being taken out of the economy? Where is that money hiding out by the time it reaches the pockets of food producers and grocers?

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Or do you think the money comes from magical unicorns who prance around in Washington DC?
It doesn't?
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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There are still more unemployed today, than 5 years ago..

yes, thats what happens during every economic recovery since the beginning of time. By definition, thats what a recovery is.

The discussion isnt going back to the point we were prior, its about returning to the point we were even when Obama took the oath of office.
Clearly we are doing better since Obama first took office.....


Increased jobs (quantity over quality) since Obama's inauguration, increased productivity, increased private sectors profits...... What's going on here......?

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But the recession ended in 2009, and the value of the dollar isnt even what it was then, which indicates its not really a recovery.
Why does the value of the dollar matter in this instance? Why would you want a strong dollar? Makes imports cheaper and exports more expensive.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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What exactly do you think those employees should be doing if there isnt a demand?
Whatever they are doing now, as interns, sub-contracted employees, or part-timers who end up working full-time but don't get full-time benefits.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:35 AM
 
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How is it being taken out of the economy? Where is that money hiding out by the time it reaches the pockets of food producers and grocers?

It doesn't?
I thought it was common knowledge that when you paid taxes, that money cant be spent by you elsewhere..
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