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Old 12-19-2008, 12:37 AM
 
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U.S. balks at decriminalizing homosexuality

UNITED NATIONS - Alone among major Western nations, the United States has refused to sign a declaration presented Thursday at the United Nations calling for worldwide decriminalization of homosexuality.

In all, 66 of the U.N.'s 192 member countries signed the nonbinding declaration — which backers called a historic step to push the General Assembly to deal more forthrightly with any-gay discrimination. More than 70 U.N. members outlaw homosexuality, and in several of them homosexual acts can be punished by execution.

Co-sponsored by France and the Netherlands, the declaration was signed by all 27 European Union members, as well as Japan, Australia, Mexico and three dozen other countries. There was broad opposition from Muslim nations, and the United States refused to sign, indicating that some parts of the declaration raised legal questions that needed further review.

U.S. balks at U.N. stand against anti-gay laws - United Nations- msnbc.com

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Old 12-19-2008, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It says why the U.S. didn't sign it...is everyone going to ignore that part. Further review (just like the U.S. said) of the actual declaration needs to be made before everyone starts jumping to conclusions.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:10 AM
 
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It says why the U.S. didn't sign it...is everyone going to ignore that part. Further review (just like the U.S. said) of the actual declaration needs to be made before everyone starts jumping to conclusions.
It's a non-binding statement, so if you're referring to the part that said that some of our own states still allow discrimination based on homosexuality, then that shouldn't really matter.
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Old 12-19-2008, 07:14 AM
 
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So much for that shining light on the hill.
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Old 12-19-2008, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Not even a thousand pricks of light...
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Nor should we. This isn't a national issue. It is a states issue. The citizens of each state have the right to make their own laws. Sex isn't mentioned at all in the Constitution. Because of the 10th Amendment, the issue becomes a state issue for each state's legislature to deal with as they so choose.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Nor should we. This isn't a national issue. It is a states issue. The citizens of each state have the right to make their own laws. Sex isn't mentioned at all in the Constitution. Because of the 10th Amendment, the issue becomes a state issue for each state's legislature to deal with as they so choose.
Ever hear of this one?

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States...
Amendment XIV, Article 1.

It's only been around for the last, oh, 140 years or so.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:23 AM
 
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To me, this proves one of two things.
Either this is proof that the Republicans have been completely infiltrated and taken over by the religious right (or scared to pizz them off, any which way it amounts to the same thing)
Or that W is owned by the Saudis and doesn't dare pizz them off.

Personally, I think/fear it is both.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Well, religious right, Saudis. Tomato, to-mah-to.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Ever hear of this one?



Amendment XIV, Article 1.

It's only been around for the last, oh, 140 years or so.
Your point? Nothing about sex in there either. You seriously think that homosexual sex was what the 14th amendment was talking about? The 14th Amendment was part of the aftermath of the Civil War and was there to preserve the rights of the citizens of the south after they had lost, and to assert that they were still United States Citizens.

Once again, the federal government has no authority to regulate such things on account of the 10th Amendment. That means that the power to regulate, or not to, rests with each individual state legislature. Once again, I see no need for federal involvement. Why do you wish to force your views on states wherein it is possible that the majority of voters in that state disagree. Let the individual states decide for themselves on the issue.
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