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Old 09-13-2013, 07:46 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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It's really really nice to see more level-headed posters taking the "wait and see" attitude in an unknown situation. Unlike the people that immediately piled on early in these threads....due to their internal biases.
I'm a wait-and-seer. It's all speculation and finger-pointing at this point.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Facebook..the new MSM for America.

Pretty scary huh ? One posting can end up with death threats to a person because the court of public opinion made its decision.

And now the waitress said she wishes him no harm. A little too late for that as the damage is done.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Like many others, I think it is too soon to form a firm opinion, but I thought I would just throw this possibility out there...

There is a chance that both of them are being honest and an anonymous third party was the one who wrote something on the receipt. This might be a stretch, but I know people who will sometimes write weird messages on other people's receipts thinking they are being cute. I believe Toni Christina Jenkins and Devin Barnes are equally innocent until proven guilty so even though I question whether Barnes did it, I'm not going to assume that the only other logical explanation is that Jenkins wrote it herself just to post a fun Facebook message.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:06 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Like many others, I think it is too soon to form a firm opinion, but I thought I would just throw this possibility out there...

There is a chance that both of them are being honest and an anonymous third party was the one who wrote something on the receipt. This might be a stretch, but I know people who will sometimes write weird messages on other people's receipts thinking they are being cute. I believe Toni Christina Jenkins and Devin Barnes are equally innocent until proven guilty so even though I question whether Barnes did it, I'm not going to assume that the only other logical explanation is that Jenkins wrote it herself just to post a fun Facebook message.
Is there any particular reason why you felt the need to make sure everyone knew the full names of the two people?
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:06 AM
 
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Facebook..the new MSM for America.

Pretty scary huh ? One posting can end up with death threats to a person because the court of public opinion made its decision.

And now the waitress said she wishes him no harm. A little too late for that as the damage is done.
Some media don't even care if something is a proven hoax, if it fits there agenda, they will continue to promote it.
HuffPo is one of those. They still have the pink headband Walmart story on their website even though it's been proven a hoax and the woman who wrote it was committed to a mental institution by the police.

Little Boy's Pink Headband Problem At Walmart (VIDEO) - Huffington Post

HuffPo doesn't care that is was a hoax made up by an unstable person, it works for their meme, so they are keeping the story live.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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And people trying to take advantage of the natural tendency to sympathize with victims of racism is also nothing new. False accusations have also existed from the beginning of time and will be here until the end.

And the waitress herself sounds strange. She posted the receipt but said she had no idea it would get any attention. Seriously? After the Zimmerman case she had no idea it would get attention? That's a little hard to swallow.
I don't know if she's taking advantage of people sympathy for racism and how long that's been around. Being a racist gets you 0 points in the world of moral people. Only people who embrace and excuse this type of behavior are bigots.

Taking the property of her employer that contains a customers personal information and posting it to Facebook was a stupid mistake but i don't know how strange it is. Many don't realize how fast this stuff can go viral when using social media. George Zimmermann has nothing to do with the subject. Racism has always sparked debate especially in the online world a long time before Zimmermann became famous.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:12 AM
 
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If they can't fire her for releasing a customer's private information online unless it is specifically laid out as a termination offense in the employee handbook, then why can they fire her if it turns out she wrote an offensive word on the receipt unless that also is specifically laid out as a termination offense in the employee handbook? Your own reasoning seems to contradict you.
it depends on their employee handbook and what offenses are actionable, and what offenses are terminable. it also lays out how many actionable offenses are allowed with in a certain period of time that add up to a termination action. and chances are that this server has committed a few actionable offenses, and this episode actually contains TWO offenses, the first being the posting of private information online, the second, if it is found to be that way, of grossly insulting a customer. i am betting that red lobster doesnt have quite enough to actually fire this person without consequence to the company, but likely they are close.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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What criminal crime did she commit? Racial hoaxes aren't crimes.
If we can criminalize thought, aka "Hate Crimes", why can't we can criminalize acts like this? The guy's getting death threats and his reputation has been damaged.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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it depends on their employee handbook and what offenses are actionable, and what offenses are terminable. it also lays out how many actionable offenses are allowed with in a certain period of time that add up to a termination action. and chances are that this server has committed a few actionable offenses, and this episode actually contains TWO offenses, the first being the posting of private information online, the second, if it is found to be that way, of grossly insulting a customer. i am betting that red lobster doesnt have quite enough to actually fire this person without consequence to the company, but likely they are close.
I disagree. This is likely at-will employment. Unless she has a contract they can let her go for any or no reason. That she brought disrepute to the brand is reason enough to can her and even deny her unemployment insurance.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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I disagree. This is likely at-will employment. Unless she has a contract they can let her go for any or no reason. That she brought disrepute to the brand is reason enough to can her and even deny her unemployment insurance.
company policies still have to be followed, or the server has grounds for a lawsuit against the company. i have been there many times wondering why companies didnt fire certain employees. come to find out later that some managers didnt follow proper procedure with documenting the violations, and when that had happened in the past the companies were sued for wrongful termination.
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