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Old 09-12-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Link please.
WTF? Monasanto operates without FDA approval?? Who woulda thunk?!
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: SC
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so this is the 'pollution' you spoke of? corn stalks and leaves being washed by rain into fields and streams?

what deleterious effect do you claim this has? the authors of the study don't mention a single one

are you aware that this is exactly the same protein that can be sprayed on USDA certified organic produce?
Are you purposely being obtuse? The dangers of Genetic Engineering have been known for decades. This is just a review, or should be for most of you. Jeffrey Smith for one has written at least two books on the subject. It is dangerous enough for 64 other nations to want to not go near it with a 10 foot pole so they insist on labeling. The problem with it is the cellular make-up is changed so that it is NOT NATURAL and CANNOT BE ASSIMILATED NORMALLY into the digestive systems of mammals or fish or insects. It wreaks havoc inside the body, forms free radicals and causes tumors and cancer. In some cases ingesting GM corn will make you allergic to non-GM corn. There are something like 67 known health hazards due to genetic engineering. There are absolutely zero benefits to it. The only one who benefits is Monsanto and the govt officials who they paid off. Get it now? If you want to know more do some research. You can start here. http://www.nongmoreport.com/nongenet...tamination.php
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: USA
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I doubt very much that Monsanto's products are toxic, but they're still an evil corporation that's in bed with our government that gives them money and protection that they don't need or deserve.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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Are you purposely being obtuse? The dangers of Genetic Engineering have been known for decades. This is just a review, or should be for most of you. Jeffrey Smith for one has written at least two books on the subject. It is dangerous enough for 64 other nations to want to not go near it with a 10 foot pole so they insist on labeling. The problem with it is the cellular make-up is changed so that it is NOT NATURAL and CANNOT BE ASSIMILATED NORMALLY into the digestive systems of mammals or fish or insects. It wreaks havoc inside the body, forms free radicals and causes tumors and cancer. In some cases ingesting GM corn will make you allergic to non-GM corn. There are something like 67 known health hazards due to genetic engineering. There are absolutely zero benefits to it. The only one who benefits is Monsanto and the govt officials who they paid off. Get it now? If you want to know more do some research. You can start here. GMO (Genetically Modified Organism) Contamination | The Organic & Non-GMO Report
You're going to have a hard time convincing me that, while humans can derive nutrition from almost anything on the entire planet, including flora and fauna that no homo sapien has ever encountered before, changing a few alleles in something's DNA is going to hurt us. Unless it specifically causes the organism to produce something on the relatively short list of organic molecules that's especially toxic to humans, then there's no harm done. Nothing in your website points out a specific compound produced by a GMO that's harmful, so I don't think they understand the actual science behind it.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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Are you purposely being obtuse?
no. i'm asking pointed questions that have you on the defensive, unable to answer.

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The dangers of Genetic Engineering have been known for decades.
really
what are they? which scientific journals do i go to in order to read about these 'dangers'?

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This is just a review, or should be for most of you. Jeffrey Smith for one has written at least two books on the subject. It is dangerous enough for 64 other nations to want to not go near it with a 10 foot pole so they insist on labeling.
if they were so horrifically dangerous that one shouldn't go near them with a 10 foot pole - why would they allow their citizens to eat them as long as they're labeled?


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The problem with it is the cellular make-up is changed so that it is NOT NATURAL and CANNOT BE ASSIMILATED NORMALLY into the digestive systems of mammals or fish or insects.
definitely gonna need a link for the underlined parts. please provide them without going onto another off-topic rant.

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It wreaks havoc inside the body, forms free radicals and causes tumors and cancer.
o lordy. such hysteria and drama.

please provide the studies that have shown this 'havoc,' free radical formation, and causation of tumors and cancer. and i'm not talking about some general link to 'natural news'

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In some cases ingesting GM corn will make you allergic to non-GM corn.
is that so? very interesting. what journal was this published in?

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There are something like 67 known health hazards due to genetic engineering.
'known health hazards', huh? that sounds very specific.
what are they?


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There are absolutely zero benefits to it.
amazing. then how do you explain the rapid and avid adoption of this technology such that -

One Billion Hectares Worldwide Have Now Been Planted With Genetically Modified Crops | Popular Science

?

are these hundreds of thousands of farmers just stupid?



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The only one who benefits is Monsanto and the govt officials who they paid off. Get it now? If you want to know more do some research. You can start here. GMO (Genetically Modified Organism) Contamination | The Organic & Non-GMO Report
lol. 'do some more research'

didn't see that one coming at all...
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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I see we have another anti-GM anti-technology thread, LMAO

For those readers who want to see just how ludicrous and inane the anti-GM anti-technology crowd is read this thread:

GMO News and Discussion Thread

When it comes to facts and accredited statistics to back up their humorous fears they are sadly lacking... In the above thread of over 600 posts there isn't anything that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt GM crops are bad for ones health. All one sees is:

~ studies suggest

~ flawed research suggests

~ there is a possibility that...

~ four decades of research is not enough time to determine whether GM crops are good or bad, they need more research done...

The anti-GM anti-technology crowd would rather see millions of men, women and children die of starvation...

Anti-GMO writers show profound ignorance of basic biology and now Jane Goodall has joined their ranks

Anti-GMO writers show profound ignorance of basic biology and now Jane Goodall has joined their ranks
Millions of men, women and children are already dying of starvation. I keep hearing how GMO Plants are supposed to save the world and end the food crisis in different parts of the world but then I see statistics like this all the time.

2013 World Hunger and Poverty Facts and Statistics by World Hunger Education Service

And this is truly tragic because you know what, these aren't just statistics. They are people. They are brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, aunts, uncles and grandparents. Yesterday we remembered the 3,000 people who died 12 years ago in the terrorist attacks, which was truly tragic, but the thing is at least 13,000 CHILDREN are going to die today because they don't have enough food to eat.

From my link:
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Poor nutrition plays a role in at least half of the 10.9 million child deaths each year--five million deaths.
And no one ever wants to think about those children, because they either aren't Americans or they aren't OUR FAMILY. If this was happening in the United States, on a daily basis, I'm sure people would care a little more. But it doesn't and people don't (care). Another shocking thing about all of this is the fact that this isn't just a bullet to the head. Starvation is something these children (and adults) suffer with for a great deal of time before mercy finally comes in the form of death. It makes me sick, but 13,000 is just an inconvenient number to most people, which will be forgotten before the end of the day.

13,000 people. Children.
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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So, why are there countries that are banning GMO foods?
Sounds like they're smarter than we are -- or care more about their people than they do about money.

Just one site with a list:
http://naturalrevolution.org/list-of...e-food-labels/
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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So, why are there countries that are banning GMO foods?
Sounds like they're smarter than we are -- or care more about their people than they do about money.

Just one site with a list:
List of Countries That Ban GMO Crops and Require GE Food LabelsNatural Revolution | Natural Revolution
On what basis are these countries 'smarter' or care more about their people?
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:27 PM
 
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Lightbulb Thanks for the heads up. Great thread & link.

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The Monsanto protection act is back and may be included in the new 3-month spending bill!

Though wrapped in a “farmer-friendly” package, the Monsanto-driven rider remains simply a biotech industry ploy to continue to plant GE crops even when a court of law has found they were approved illegally.

Will you join me in telling Congress to exclude this dangerous rider in the upcoming spending bill?

Center for Food Safety | Tell Congress to Dump the Monsanto Protection Act!

Thanks to those of you who care! It is a crying shame we even have to fight for something like this.

Thanks for the link & thread. It is a real shame, sad indeed that we have to fight for this.
It is also sad how the same people who support Monsanto, always show up in these threads, I wonder if they are on their payroll oh, nevermind, I know they must be.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: :0)1 CORINTHIANS,13*"KYRIE, ELEISON"*"CHRISTE ELEISON"
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Lightbulb Thanks for your post SWB.

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So, why are there countries that are banning GMO foods?
Sounds like they're smarter than we are -- or care more about their people than they do about money.

Just one site with a list:
List of Countries That Ban GMO Crops and Require GE Food LabelsNatural Revolution | Natural Revolution


Not only that, but other countries label their GMO ingredients. While Monsanto & other big corporations fought tooth & nail, spent millions of dollars to prevent the labeling of GMO ingredients in the USA. If GMO's are safe, why are they trying soooo hard to hide the GMO ingredients from us? Why??? If its so wonderful LABEL it! We should be able to choose what we eat & how we spend our money.

I also cannot stand how different companies like Kraft use GMO ingredients & artificial colors for the products sold in the US, but use natural colors like beet juice, paprika in products outside of the US, why the double standard? Why do we get the worse? It happens with everything, from cereals, candies, drinks, etc. So, they can manage to produce a better product for other countries that demand it, but not for us?
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