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Ahhh... The military had rockets and cannons in that time and the citizens did not!!
Then that means the citizens back then were not adequately armed. And therefore their constitutional rights were violated. But it is too late to correct that now. We can only look forward to the nuclear warhead problem. Or the lack of.
And interestingly enough, you are admitting anyone foolish enough to fight against superior weapons would be doomed.
Then that means the citizens back then were not adequately armed. And therefore their constitutional rights were violated. But it is too late to correct that now. We can only look forward to the nuclear warhead problem. Or the lack of.
And interestingly enough, you are admitting anyone foolish enough to fight against superior weapons would be doomed.
It can't happen here. If the people of the United States decided to violently overthrow the government, it wouldn't last long. The military has jets, drones, tanks, anti-material rifles, claymores, etc. What would do the U.S. people have? A lot of guns. Guns don't do much against unmanned planes.
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
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The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was not to prevent tyranny. That's just twisting the constitution, as it has no such provision.
The purpose was to provide a means for a militia in the absence of a standing army. Those that assert that the 2nd Amendment was to protect the people, so they can rise up against their elected government, are ignorant, plain and simple.
There is no provision in the Constitution to redress tyranny beyond the next election, impeachment and criminal prosecution. Those are the methods the Founders established for addressing government that didn't represent the people. The Founders never intended and never provided, a means to sanction insurrection by people who got a bug in their head.
We have a democracy where we elect our leaders. If one has a grievance, as the was what the Declaration of Independence was -- a list of grievances, we have the option of electing different leaders.
What the right-wing is mad about is the fact that the majority elected President Obama against their choice -- but that's how democracy works. Sometimes the majority elects people you don't like. The remedy is not to declare that the country has become tyrannical and therefore decide to have a revolution. The remedy is to nominate candidates that are attractive to the majority of voters.
You are correct MTAtech. The argument that we, as citizens, have a constitutional right to take up arms against our lawfully constituted government is without any foundation. There is no support for such right, either historically or constitutionally. The American Revolution was a war waged for separation of the American colonies from the rule of the English monarchy, and not a rebellion against the established colonial governments. The colonies were being taxed under English laws in which they had no elected representatives in Parliament; and when the Crown refused to grant representation, the colonies, in Continental Congress, declared their separate statehood and independence.
Likewise, the reliance on the supposed historical record of the founding fathers is wrong. George Washington, who is considered the father of our nation and who commanded the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, was the president of the Constitutional Convention that drafted our Constitution that is the framework of our government of laws; and thereafter elected to be the first President of the United States. During his term in office, President Washington put down the Whisky rebellion of 1794, which was an armed insurrection against the government in protest of the tax enacted by Congress in 1791. Washington personally lead the organized militia to quash the rebellion and assert the federal government’s authority over the states and their citizens.
We would do well to learn from history rather than trying to rewrite it.
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